Is Weimar White Of "Coin Chemistry" fame a member of these boards?
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Interesting discussions of coin luster and surfaces commonly come up, some in the guise of AT/NT battles on these boards. Mr White has written a book on this and might want to weigh in on his definition of "luster".
Anybody else with a scientific definition, or a link to his?
You know, the phenomena of metal flow at the surface and light characteristics and so on that give luster...
PS - well not famous, but you get the idea
Anybody else with a scientific definition, or a link to his?
You know, the phenomena of metal flow at the surface and light characteristics and so on that give luster...
PS - well not famous, but you get the idea
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Well, just Love coins, period.
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<< <i>Presently, Weimar is enjoying managing a small fish farm on his property in the Southern tier of N.Y., and I don't expect he will be visiting here any time soon. I will see him in late October at a club sponsored show, and can extend an invitation. >>
That doesnt sound like a bad life.....
His opinions have caused a lot mischief in the past. People dipped coins that shouldn’t have been dipped and adversely affected the market price for original toned silver coins for a time.
<< <i>To be blunt Mr. White’s opinions about toned silver coins are as wet has his fish. He thinks that all toned silver are corroded and damaged and claims that all of them will become black eventually. That is true if you can live and wait for a few centuries for properly stored material to complete the toning process. Frankly I don’t think I’ll be around that long.
His opinions have caused a lot mischief in the past. People dipped coins that shouldn’t have been dipped and adversely affected the market price for original toned silver coins for a time. >>
I know Weimar is averse to toned coins but I wouldn't go so far as to blame him for what other people do to their coins. Its like blaming people who make markets in toned coins for causing all the AT out there.
<< <i>To be blunt Mr. White’s opinions about toned silver coins are as wet has his fish. He thinks that all toned silver are corroded and damaged and claims that all of them will become black eventually. That is true if you can live and wait for a few centuries for properly stored material to complete the toning process. Frankly I don’t think I’ll be around that long.
His opinions have caused a lot mischief in the past. People dipped coins that shouldn’t have been dipped and adversely affected the market price for original toned silver coins for a time. >>
Yup, that's the way his book reads. Sorry I ever bought the thing.
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<< <i>To be blunt Mr. White’s opinions about toned silver coins are as wet has his fish. He thinks that all toned silver are corroded and damaged and claims that all of them will become black eventually. That is true if you can live and wait for a few centuries for properly stored material to complete the toning process. Frankly I don’t think I’ll be around that long.
His opinions have caused a lot mischief in the past. People dipped coins that shouldn’t have been dipped and adversely affected the market price for original toned silver coins for a time. >>
I know Weimar is averse to toned coins but I wouldn't go so far as to blame him for what other people do to their coins. Its like blaming people who make markets in toned coins for causing all the AT out there.
The trouble was Mr. White's theories on the subject got on the front page of Coin World as a series of news articles (FACT) NOT editorials (OPINION). It caused trouble in the coin market for several months in the mid 1990s. There are several well known numismatic experts who sharply disagreed with Mr. White’s assertions, but their rebuttals ended up on the “Letters to the Editor” page instead of the front page.
Mr. While can have his theories, but I'll toe to toe with him on the subject. I've got toned coins that I've owned for over 30 years that have not changed one bit.
Once the "damage" is established, he goes on from there to insist that all toned coins be knocked down in grade.
Personally I like toned coins and like Bill I have had quite a few which have not changed in appearance over a long period time.
<< <i>To be blunt Mr. White’s opinions about toned silver coins are as wet has his fish. He thinks that all toned silver are corroded and damaged and claims that all of them will become black eventually. That is true if you can live and wait for a few centuries for properly stored material to complete the toning process. Frankly I don’t think I’ll be around that long.
His opinions have caused a lot mischief in the past. People dipped coins that shouldn’t have been dipped and adversely affected the market price for original toned silver coins for a time. >>
So he is here... username is RickO
That's a good one!!
I knew it would happen.
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Two of my all-time favorite threads on the toning of coins:
1. Sunnywood's Thin Film Color Progression thread (April 14, 2009)
2. Rob790s myths & understanding about toning (July 13, 2004)
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