1837 Executive Experiment Token Varieties?
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Does anyone have any reference material on these. I've been making a quick study of these and noticed two different varieties.
Variety one:
![image](http://i50.tinypic.com/2mpjsb8.jpg)
The first L in FOLLOW to the right of ILLUSTRIOUS.
The Donkeys back foot touching R in PREDECESSOR.
7 of 1837 above the A in AGENT.
Variety two (seems to be rarer?):
![image](http://i47.tinypic.com/67m8ur.jpg)
The first L in FOLLOW to the left of ILLUSTRIOUS.
The Donkeys back foot not touching R in PREDECESSOR.
7 of 1837 to the right of A in AGENT.
Also the reverse is struck of centre. Would this carry a premium?
Variety one:
![image](http://i50.tinypic.com/2mpjsb8.jpg)
The first L in FOLLOW to the right of ILLUSTRIOUS.
The Donkeys back foot touching R in PREDECESSOR.
7 of 1837 above the A in AGENT.
Variety two (seems to be rarer?):
![image](http://i47.tinypic.com/67m8ur.jpg)
The first L in FOLLOW to the left of ILLUSTRIOUS.
The Donkeys back foot not touching R in PREDECESSOR.
7 of 1837 to the right of A in AGENT.
Also the reverse is struck of centre. Would this carry a premium?
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Variety 2.) Pictured with the donkey's ear nearly touching the first ear is scarcer.
If it's 28.5 mm in diameter it's a HT-31 R-3, if 29mm in diameter it's a HT-32 R-1.
The off centering is normal on all HT-31 through HT-34 Illustrious Predecessors.
What about this one:
Is it a HT-33? the teath around the border looks different (longer).
There was no real quality control on these tokens and there's plenty of striking issues on this Illustrious Predecessors design such as misaligned dies, off centering, double strikes, uni face strikes, etc.
<< <i>Thank great you very much.
Your welcome you could go to Stack's Archives and punch in HT-31 thru HT-34 to see larger color higher grade examples of each for your research.
You could also try Alan Fishers website which may offer some help which is www.hardtimestokens.com
<< <i>Thanks I was looking at Heritage archives but I'll have a look at your other recommendations. >>
Heritage and all other current auction houses with search able archives have only sold a drop in the bucket compared to Stack's when it comes to this series.
i recently delved down into the HT & Low numbered HTT.
1. imo it is possible to attribute all the htt from 31-34 by diagnostics alone without measuring diameters, no?
2. also does the search function of the
<< <i>Your welcome you could go to Stack's Archives and punch in HT-31 thru HT-34 to see larger color higher grade examples of each for your research. >>
still function as easily as your post implies?
assistance for both will be greatly appreciated. too bad there weren't more replies to this thread.
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gosh darnit, can someone link the pop reports for these tokens. i swore i saw several posts about people raving that pcgs now recognizes HTTs
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gosh darnit, can someone link the pop reports for these tokens. i swore i saw several posts about people raving that pcgs now recognizes HTTs
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PCGS now recognizes SCD's not HTT's
However they do grade Feuches'
NGC has pops for HTT. and now has pops for most
CWT's
Stupid iPhone !!!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
<< <i>Pigs now recognizes SCD's not HTT's
However they do grade Feuches'
NGC has pops for HTT. and now has pops for most
CWT's >>
Automatic spell check... As I think you to type meant Pcgs not Pigs
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<< <i>Pigs now recognizes SCD's not HTT's
However they do grade Feuches'
NGC has pops for HTT. and now has pops for most
CWT's >>
Automatic spell check... As I think you to type meant Pcgs not Pigs
Thanks...... Stupid iPhone auto correct!!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
tyvm
guess i shoulda searched better
edited to add:
this little piggy is off to bed!
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<< <i>Thanks...... Stupid iPhone auto correct!! >>
My Kindle Fire is so bad with spell check I can't sign in here as it corrects my password
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<< <i>Thanks...... Stupid iPhone auto correct!! >>
My Kindle Fire is so bad with spell check I can't sign in here as it corrects my password
now that's
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC