Checking prices in various grades has changed with the new website......AND NOT FOR THE BETTER!!!
drddm
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If you want to check on a price in the PCGS price guide that is not displayed already, you MUST join COIN FACTS......
Can you believe that?
I'm certainly not happy about this new change.
Why the restricted acesss?
Can you believe that?
I'm certainly not happy about this new change.
Why the restricted acesss?
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see what it actually sold for and when it sold.
Free of charge. I don't remember if you have to get a free membership.
JT
I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
If it is a prod, it could backfire in various ways.
Either way, the information is still available in other venues, and it's not worth losing any sleep over.
<< <i>Maybe a glitch, maybe a prod to get us to subscribe.
If it is a prod, it could backfire in various ways.
Either way, the information is still available in other venues, and it's not worth losing any sleep over. >>
MANY of us already fork over $200 a year for a Platinum membership. And they can't throw us a bone with a little fully listed price guide. Not acceptable!!!!!
I hope PCGS changes this.
<< <i>I guess PCGS is just trying to get EVERYBODY to fork over some more CASH.......doesn't seem right to me. >>
Instead of guessing and complaining, why not at least ask them, first? If, by chance. it's a glitch, I'm sure they'll appreciate being made aware of it (in a nice way).
<< <i>And, if it's not a glitch? >>
If you hear that from them, then at least you wont be guessing and complaining prematurely and unfairly.
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<< <i>And, if it's not a glitch? >>
If you hear that from them, then at least you wont be guessing and complaining prematurely and unfairly. >>
It is not a glitch......
"Along with dedicated pages for nearly 30,000 U.S. Coins, PCGS CoinFacts members get the PCGS Population Report, Auction Prices Realized and Expanded Price Guide – three unique and indispensable tools for determining coin values – all included with your PCGS CoinFacts subscription"
<< <i>And, if it's not a glitch? >>
<< <i>If you want to check on a price in the PCGS price guide that is not displayed already, you MUST join COIN FACTS......
Can you believe that?
I'm certainly not happy about this new change.
Why the restricted acesss? >>
what are you referring to??
What does this, "to check on a price in the PCGS price guide that is not displayed already", mean?
The name is LEE!
Positive BST Transactions with a bunch of members
One man gathers what another man spills
IIRC, the in-between prices were only included recently. Before that, we had to fend for ourselves. Somehow, we managed to price and buy AU-58 coins. It was a struggle of epic proportions, but we dug deep within ourselves and pulled it off.
It seems a yearly membership is getting us less and less these days, especially since Coin Facts has come about.
Positive BST Transactions with a bunch of members
One man gathers what another man spills
Geeeze!!!!
john
<< <i>You guys crack me up.
IIRC, the in-between prices were only included recently. Before that, we had to fend for ourselves. Somehow, we managed to price and buy AU-58 coins. It was a struggle of epic proportions, but we dug deep within ourselves and pulled it off.
Well Sir the "in-between" prices as I'm sure you know can mean the difference of hundreds if not thousands of dollars. If you deal in mid-grade coins this is very important. I will be spending ALOT more time on the Heritage archives site now since they have the PCGS "in-between" price guide listed for free. I am sure, however, PCGS doesn't care as this change is designed to "squeeze" more $$ out of us.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>Not only should we get the complete price list. I feel that paying $200 a year I should get the "Coin Facts" thing to! I mean what does $200 get you besides the previlge to spend money to get coins graded.
Geeeze!!!!
<< <i>And you guys and gals thought I was kidding when I asked how much this new and improved web site was going to cost us.
You sir were quite correct. Well, on the flipside PCGS is providing a valuable service. I'm just not sure I want to pay $10 a month for it...
Dwayne F. Sessom
Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
<< <i>Not only should we get the complete price list. I feel that paying $200 a year I should get the "Coin Facts" thing to! I mean what does $200 get you besides the previlge to spend money to get coins graded.
Geeeze!!!!
I pay the $200 to get the 8 grades and the pop report, and so do you. No one would buy the Platinum membership were it not for the coupon for the 8 coin submissions that comes along with it.
PCGS never included the price guide as part of the Collectors Club package. It was a freebie on the website for anyone who wanted it. Now, want to hold some of that information back.
Where's that pic of the lightning bolt?
"Question your assumptions."
"Intelligence is an evolutionary adaptation."
Russ, NCNE
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
<< <i>Let's see here. For years, everybody has pooh pooh'ed the PCGS price guide as being useless because the values were wildly inaccurate, and now everybody is whining because they can't get prices.
Russ, NCNE >>
How true!
and personally- this does not make the company look good.
I'm sure it will come down to a fee being paid in order to use the forums! And that will be part of your membership + whatever else they feel will get a few more bucks into the coffers.
Its not like you ask for accurate grading all the time or professional handling of your coins when they get encapsulated at a fee ranging from 14-500 bucks.
So either compalin loudly on deaf ears - the decision has already been made or
make lemonade..
El wrong-o......not only was it free before... for a long time they sent out a magazine with all the prices in it!!!!!!
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>>>>PCGS never included the price guide as part of the Collectors Club package. It was a freebie on the website for anyone who wanted it. Now, want to hold some of that information back. <<<
El wrong-o......not only was it free before... for a long time they sent out a magazine with all the prices in it!!!!!! >>
While prices online wer free the magazine was only for collectors club members and dealers.
<< <i>>>>PCGS never included the price guide as part of the Collectors Club package. It was a freebie on the website for anyone who wanted it. Now, want to hold some of that information back. <<<
El wrong-o......not only was it free before... for a long time they sent out a magazine with all the prices in it!!!!!! >>
Wrong-o to you. The magazine lasted a year (give or take a couple months) and had no impact on the online price guide.
Personally, I think it is foolhardy for PCGS to limited the prices to those that are displayed for a couple reasons:
1. I can get the same information elsewhere and therefore will spend time looking for it elsewhere, rather than staying on the PCGS site, clicking banner ads, etc.
2. I do not think that anyone will pay extra for it.
3. I do not think that someone on the fence re: CoinFacts will be swayed by the addition of the price information.
4. I think that it strengthens the PCGS brand having and controlling the price information for the product. Would they rather Greysheet control it? Coin World? Numismedia? Heritage?
5. If you need to know what the value of an AU-58 is, I'll give you a little hint. It's between the AU-55 and the MS-60.
Either way, as I said earlier, I am not going to lose any sleep over it, but I am very much enjoying watching some of you blow a gasket over it.
Truer words were never written.
<< <i>I can imagine the bored meetings where they must have discussed all the pros and cons of what should be a fee and what should be for free. The kiss arses at the company who want to move up probably all said "lets charge them for every single thing" and those that have been with the company for some time and have nothing to lose probably wanted to help us out and keep things free following Heritage's doctrine but the board probably overruled siting profits and stockholders and voted to make or increase the fees. It is a shame that the Heritage model is used at times and ignored at others. Greed is good right
While I am not paying for the coinfacts, if people were not willing to pay $10 a month then I'm sure the price would have dropped or they would make it a part of the Collectors Club fee and raise that.
But since it seems the price is remaining the same it must be worth something to enough folks to justify the price. Seems fair considering how many man hours PCGS put into it. Wouldn't you want to be reimbursed for time you spend working?
Marketing 101:
-Try to increase your market base
-Try to maintain your current market base
-Do not get too greedy and threaten to effect the above
for example :
-Supermarkets charging for bags
-Adding unnecessary surcharges/taxes to a service
-TPG's charging a fee to see their full price list....
<< <i>While I am not paying for the coinfacts, if people were not willing to pay $10 a month then I'm sure the price would have dropped or they would make it a part of the Collectors Club fee and raise that.
But since it seems the price is remaining the same it must be worth something to enough folks to justify the price. Seems fair considering how many man hours PCGS put into it. Wouldn't you want to be reimbursed for time you spend working? >>
I am a health care provider. Everyone also expects me to work for free.
Except the unhighlighted tabs are CoinFacts only!
However, there is no way I can justify paying an additional subscription on top of the collectors club fees for this sort of information when it continues to be free (along with the Pop report) by just logging into Heritage. wonder how long that'll last though...
seems you can also get the values on the PCGS Registry for free too if you have a set that requires the coin and do the "what if" and put in a coin of that grade. Looks like anyone can get the pop report for free that way too (whether or not they are a member of the collectors club). I'm not counting on that lasting either based on what i've seen so far.
wonder when they are going to start charging us additional fees for participation in the set registry??
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<< <i>Wait until they start charging a subscription fee to participate on the CU forums.
As they should. Goodbye alts!!!
The most active prices, which has existed for years, continues to be free of charge.
Population report access continues to be part of your Collector Club membership.
For those subscribers out there, check out the newly designed Auction Prices Realized. We have one more big change coming for APR in the next few days.