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Is this SLQ Authentic?

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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It doesn't look it to me, but then again, what do I know?
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    Do you have it in hand?

    Weigh it.
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    I dont have a scale for grams. I will have to take it somewhere.
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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fields look dead. Not good, but to quote drwstr, "what do I know?"
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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's the real deal.
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    Coins with that much detail generally dont look like that. It has the look of a coin thats been in circulation, yet has little/no wear. But conversley, the coin has absolutely zero luster, which you would expect to see on a coin with those details. I dont know my fakes from reals, but if I HAD to guess, I say fake.
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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Real with "messed-with" surfaces is my guess.

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    BobSavBobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
    Looks ok to me ! image

    If in doubt weigh it.

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    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Real with "messed-with" surfaces is my guess. >>



    My thoughts too.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't look real to me. Luster looks way off.

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    Here is a better shot of the luster.

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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is the reeding nice and sharp and even all around the coin?
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    you either got somethin special or it's a fake
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just looked at a MS coin on Heritage and the fields are smooth not that granualer effect your coin shows.
    So this may be a acid dipped dug out of the ground coin. Or something else.
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    1917 Ty1 is the best struck coin of the series.....

    Has album slide marks which are common with these...

    In some of the photos it almost looks cast...



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    TCoinsTCoins Posts: 567 ✭✭
    Sonething smells afoul in Denmark
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    << <i>image >>



    at that angle you can see it's whizzed
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    << <i>Here is a better shot of the luster.

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    Here is your diagnostic point. Notice the little lump of metal under the "V" in unum? Is that supposed to be there?
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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see no reason to doubt the authenticity of the coin. It does look like it was cleaned and wiped, but nothing more serious than that.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it's fake, it's awfully clever. (There is also a little raised bump above the 'toe' of the R in LIBERTY). I opine that it is genuine, but whizzed, given the parallel lines on both sides and that odd grainy surface.
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    I question a couple 'holes' on the obverse


    between the L and the I, between the R and the T are a couple
    and just to the left of the shield


    thgese look like minted rather than post mint
    which would mean blebs on the die or a strike-through



    I would not want to buy just from your picture
    butmay like in hand


    as previously mentioned, angle shot shows whizzed but can do that with copies as well
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that coin was cleaned with cyanide and then allowed to retone. Since potassium cyanide is a solvent for all silver compounds, tarnish as well as the metal itself, that would explain the granularity.
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    veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    This coin looks authentic to me.
    The "pebbly" texture on the reverse is common on 16 and 17 T1 SLQs. In addition, the luster can sometimes be lifeless and flat on these coins. It does, however look cleaned or altered in some manner.
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    Its whizzed. Took a a dealer, looked at it with a microscope.
    It looks good in my 7070. But, I wish I had gotten my money back when it was still possible.
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    << <i>you either got somethin special or it's a fake >>



    Just look at Libertys toes on her left foot.
    That's a magnificent strike if it's not a fake.
    Also, the shield is full.
    JT
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    veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    The 17 T1 is by far, the sharpest struck SLQ in the entire series. Sharp toes, shield and head detail are the norm for this date. The 1917 branch mints, especially the San Francisco issue, often display obvious strike weakness.
    Do not compare the 17 T1 to other dates in the series.
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    FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    Does it weigh correct? Sometimes cast counterfeits are whizzed to simulate luster.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    real & ugly

    K S
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm suspecting it was dipped in a cleaning solution (acid) to remove environmental damage already done to the coin's surface (light corrosion), and then wiped...

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