1951-S Franklin has teeth? warning huge image

coinsarefun · April 15, 2008 1:28PM

I posted this one earlier but after looking at the huge image
it appears to have teeth? Rather a die clash similar to the Bugs Bunny variety.
I thought that those varieties were on the Philly mints.
Is that a clash in the mouth ?

Stefanie

Doogy · April 15, 2008 1:29PM

Vampire Frankie! look out!

SkyMan · April 15, 2008 1:43PM

<< Vampire Frankie! look out! >>

You betcha'! Now if only there was red toning around the mouth...

adamlaneus · April 15, 2008 1:48PM

Well, I know who was bitten by Frankie...

BECOKA · April 15, 2008 1:52PM

I like it.

I'll try to do an overly and see if it is a clash or not. Might take a few minutes.

coinsarefun · April 15, 2008 1:54PM

<< I like it.

I'll try to do an overly and see if it is a clash or not. Might take a few minutes. >>

Thanks.

Stefanie

ProofArtworkonCircs · April 15, 2008 1:56PM

What is up with that extra metal in the bottom loop of B of LIBERTY?

BECOKA · April 15, 2008 2:04PM

Maybe this helps. Looks like the M could be clashed to look like a fang.

Sorry about the rotation vs. The flip.

Fixed now.

coinsarefun · April 15, 2008 2:05PM

<< What is up with that extra metal in the bottom loop of B of LIBERTY? >>

I don't know. In the date the last 1 looks thicker as well, but I think its just strike doubling.

Stefanie

BECOKA · April 15, 2008 2:06PM

A closer look.

coinsarefun · April 15, 2008 2:09PM

<< A closer look.

>>

That's amazing how you do that.
Thanks. But I still have no idea. Are there any documented ones?

Stefanie

BECOKA · April 15, 2008 2:10PM

<< 

That's amazing how you do that.
Thanks. But I still have no idea. Are there any documented ones?

Stefanie >>

No clue, we need Lucy.

ProofArtworkonCircs · April 15, 2008 2:21PM

<<What is up with that extra metal in the bottom loop of B of LIBERTY?>>

BECOKA has the answer in his overlay. It is a clash from the L of DOLLAR. That little section matches exactly.

coinsarefun · April 15, 2008 2:36PM

At the risk of me sounding stupid( I do this quite often)
Isn't the eagle supposed to be in his mouth when the coin is check for clashing?

Stefanie

evsite · April 15, 2008 2:40PM

Yes...the reverse image on the overlay is mirrored from what it should be
It looks like the overlay was only rotated. You need to mirror the image then rotate.

dorkkarl · April 15, 2008 6:49PM

if it is reasonably visible w/o a glass, then i say you do in fact have a nice bugs-bunny, & this 1 is worth a few bux

K S

coinkat · April 15, 2008 7:51PM

Becoka... excellent work with the images...

I now there are other Bugs Bunny varieties... I believe there is a 1952 as well...

nice find and I agree that this will have a premium... just not sure how much

bushmaster8 · April 15, 2008 10:48PM

You are correct Stephanie, the overlay needs to be mirrored, so that the eagle is in front of ben's face and the M of Unum would protrude from the back of Ben's head.

gecko109 · April 15, 2008 10:55PM

I posted this one earlier but after looking at the huge image
it appears to have teeth? Rather a die clash similar to the Bugs Bunny variety.
I thought that those varieties were on the Philly mints.
Is that a clash in the mouth ?

I once had an ex girlfriend tell me to honestly tell her how her butt looked in a new pair of jeans. I know all about the "clash in the mouth".

guitarwes · April 15, 2008 11:06PM

cool pickup regardless.

Yes, on the overlay, the Eagle's wing is supposed to be in the mouth. Feather's may result in fang-like projections.

.........just to overstate the obvious of course.

wes

AUandAG · April 15, 2008 11:21PM

Neat find....but, is that a DDR? What is up with the letter S and OF in STATES OF on the reverse?
bob

ProofArtworkonCircs · April 16, 2008 12:06AM

Revised Theory - The mark in the lower loop of B of LIBERTY may have something to do with the F of HALF. But what the heck - I was wrong before.

StrikeOutXXX · April 16, 2008 12:22AM

The BB is from the lower eagle wingtips. Here is a different overlay and a close-up:

coinsarefun · April 16, 2008 12:32AM

This is getting quite interesting but weren't the die clashes coming out of the Philly mint?
I have never read anything about any other mint.

Stefanie

BECOKA · April 16, 2008 1:31AM

Sorry all, I corrected my image, I did a flip and a mirror originally instead of just a flip.

My images are fixed, links to the old ones probably won't show up any more.

BECOKA · April 16, 2008 1:36AM

One more thing I just noticed, not sure if it is normal or not but staring at the reverse I can see all the outline of Franklin's head. Maybe another clash on the reverse?

coinsarefun · April 16, 2008 1:42AM

<< Sorry all, I corrected my image, I did a flip and a mirror originally instead of just a flip.

My images are fixed, links to the old ones probably won't show up any more. >>

That's what happens when you try to help me out so late at night

Stefanie

ProofArtworkonCircs · April 16, 2008 12:37PM

Clashes can happen at any mint. I am not sure of the exact timing, but Philadelphia modified their equipment to prevent clashes about the early 1970's. It is not foolproof but Denver clashes are much more common than Philly from that point on.

mtnman · April 16, 2008 1:11PM

Nice pickup. I have a 1951-P and also a 1954-P. Both in ANACS plastic. I've never seen on from Denver mint.

coinsarefun · April 16, 2008 1:14PM

<< Nice pickup. I have a 1951-P and also a 1954-P. Both in ANACS plastic. I've never seen on from Denver mint. >>

Do you think ANACS will indicate it on the slab?

Stefanie

Coxe · April 16, 2008 1:15PM

It's wabbit season I see.

mtnman · April 16, 2008 11:24PM

Do you think ANACS will indicate it on the slab?

ANACS indicated that both were the Bugs Bunny variety.

bushmaster8 · April 17, 2008 1:07AM

I don't think ANACS would call this a BugB.

This clash is essentially the same, but the orientation of the die(s) is a wee bit different.

So there is definitely a dental problem going on there, but not the "pointy-fang" stylee that characterizes the BB.

This 51-S is a result of the same phenomenon, but obviously is not technically a BB IMHO.

Nice coin with originality.

1951-S Franklin has teeth? warning huge image

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