You can no longer see what others are bidding on @ ebay?

sonofagunk · November 10, 2006 7:06AM

Tried to look at someone and got the following:

To protect bidder privacy, not all items that this member has bid on may be displayed.
For auction items, bold price means at least one bid has been received.

and then a bunch of auctions that are closed and he won.

Also, I was blocked from sending a message to someone that I did not have an "open transaction" with. Guess they changed that too?

LALASD4 · November 10, 2006 7:15AM

Don't know? Did you bidded on more than 12 items in the last 30 days?

19Lyds · November 10, 2006 7:19AM

I just viewed another bidders bid history and was able to send a message to a bidder I had no open transaction with successfully. Perhaps the person you were looking at had himself set up for privacy. JAG.

Russ · November 10, 2006 7:20AM

Interesting. It now shows only items that the bidder actually won.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · November 10, 2006 7:23AM

Here's an example.

I know that particular user has bid in over 300 auctions in the last 30 days, but now the search returns only the 80 they've won even if you check "Even if not the high bidder ".

Russ, NCNE

AU58WALKERS · November 10, 2006 7:26AM

I SPY with my little ole eye.

19Lyds · November 10, 2006 7:28AM

I guess I was looking at the feedback history. DUH!

Hugegut · November 10, 2006 7:31AM

Maybe they just don't show auctions for which the seller has chosen to hide the bidder's identities (private auction). I ran my own id and it shows everything like normal.

Russ · November 10, 2006 7:35AM

<< Maybe they just don't show auctions for which the seller has chosen to hide the bidder's identities (private auction) >>

Nope, not it. The bidder I linked had few if any private auctions in his history.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · November 10, 2006 7:40AM

This change sure makes it harder to detect shilling.

Russ, NCNE

TwoSides2aCoin · November 10, 2006 7:45AM

, does that mean I won't have as much competition for certain things, now ?

Hugegut · November 10, 2006 7:47AM

Very strange. It's showing stuff I didn't win. Why not for this other guy? I'll take a look on ebay and see if there's some new kind of option you can check off to hide your bid history.

Russ · November 10, 2006 7:48AM

<< I'll take a look on ebay and see if there's some new kind of option you can check off to hide your bid history. >>

I did that. Couldn't find an option, but maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.

Russ, NCNE

TavernTreasures · November 10, 2006 7:53AM

Before I saw this post, I was checking out my competitors on ebay and found the same problem. It really got me. So I emailed Ebay customer service the following;

"Buying and Finding > Searching and browsing for listings > Favorite searches

Message: Why did Ebay change the the search of "current and recent auctions bid on"? Now when I check what my competitors are bidding on there is a notation that "to protect bidder privacy not all items are displayed.....". What is this all about? This was an aid to buyers who were looking for items to bid on. Sometimes I find an item to bid on by checking out what my competitor is bidding on. This idea of Ebay's stinks. This also will hurt sellers because it may lessen the buyers finding their items. Change it back the way it was!"

solid · November 10, 2006 7:55AM

I've been trying to see the bidding history for a NARU's user for days - it keeps saying "Feature Unavailable".

It does seem to work fine for other ID's, though like Russ said, it's only showing items won.

Ken

VamGuy · November 10, 2006 8:00AM

<< This change sure makes it harder to detect shilling. >>

Perhaps this is their exact intent.

Hugegut · November 10, 2006 8:01AM

I didn't see anything over at ebay that would explain it. Hopefully it's just a temporary experiment or something. Shill bidders will love this.

lloydmincy · November 10, 2006 8:07AM

<<This change sure makes it harder to detect shilling.>>

No such thing. Bid for what you would for an item, and not any higher. No one's forcing you to push the button

LindeDad · November 10, 2006 8:09AM

Ok guys I am bidding on five items right now which ones have snipes set on them.

pharmer · November 10, 2006 8:17AM

<< Before I saw this post, I was checking out my competitors on ebay and found the same problem. It really got me. So I emailed Ebay customer service the following;

"Buying and Finding > Searching and browsing for listings > Favorite searches

Message: Why did Ebay change the the search of "current and recent auctions bid on"? Now when I check what my competitors are bidding on there is a notation that "to protect bidder privacy not all items are displayed.....". What is this all about? This was an aid to buyers who were looking for items to bid on. Sometimes I find an item to bid on by checking out what my competitor is bidding on. This idea of Ebay's stinks. This also will hurt sellers because it may lessen the buyers finding their items. Change it back the way it was!" >>

That is hilarious! Yet I get the feeling you're serious.

I hope this is the new policy, no one has a right to see what I'm bidding on.

GAT · November 10, 2006 8:30AM

This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Screw eBay and all the shilling they will attract now.

Russ · November 10, 2006 8:31AM

<< I've been trying to see the bidding history for a NARU's user for days - it keeps saying "Feature Unavailable". >>

I just tried a search on another NARU'd user and got the same message. So, in addition to making it tougher to detect shilling by hiding auctions the bidder didn't win, they are also protecting the privacy of scumbags who've been booted.

Russ, NCNE

TAClough · November 10, 2006 8:37AM

<< I hope this is the new policy, no one has a right to see what I'm bidding on. >>

Well said!

<< " .... Now when I check what my competitors are bidding on there is a notation that "to protect bidder privacy not all items are displayed.....". >>

You have to be joking

Hugegut · November 10, 2006 8:37AM

Goofbay still works to get the full list...but for how long?...

Russ · November 10, 2006 8:50AM

Found the announcement.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · November 10, 2006 8:52AM

And, the FAQ for the changes.

Russ, NCNE

LucyBop · November 10, 2006 8:53AM

Now I can resume bidding on my private intimates....

Heh......

Hugegut · November 10, 2006 9:08AM

Man, what a dumb move. Instead of getting rid of the stupid, useless "2nd chance offer" thing , they get rid of everyone's ability to detect shill bidders.

Myqqy · November 10, 2006 9:16AM

Now I can resume bidding on my private intimates....

lloydmincy · November 10, 2006 9:22AM

Why do you guys keep saying SHILL???

I love it. Someone gets someone else to bid on their items, and it is called SHILL. What a crock. You don't have to bid on it if you don't want to. Ironic - The "You SUCK" posts are usually about someone "trying" to pull off a steal from some e-bay seller. Why do you need to know what I or any other competitor is bidding on??? Can't you handle picking an item and bidding it accordingly for yourself???

I can't believe e-bay (which I never waste my time with), even allowed you to see what other lots someone was bidding on --- WHERE'S THE PRIVACY??? Looks like they are moving in the right direction.

TavernTreasures · November 10, 2006 9:24AM

I am serious in my previous post. Things may be a little different when searching for New Jersey breweriana then when searching for coins. Anyway I got an answer (they should just leave well enough alone) from Ebay as follows:

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the recent changes made to
search.

I am sorry that you aren't pleased with eBay's recent changes to our
search results. Enhanced search results was designed using input from
our members. The new design displays seller information in your search
results, allows you to quickly view pertinent information about each
item. You can also instantly add items to your Watch list.

Please be aware that this is a test of our new design. A small
percentage of randomly-selected buyers will see the new design when they
view all search and browse results pages, along with Sellers Other Items
pages. In a few weeks, selected users will also see the new
functionality and design in item lists within an eBay Store.

I hope as you become more familiar with our enhanced search results
you'll agree it makes eBay an even better place to buy and sell.

Thank you for being a valuable member of the eBay community. Have a
wonderful time shopping and selling on eBay!

Sincerely,
Kim H.

eBay Customer Support

Russ · November 10, 2006 9:25AM

<< Why do you need to know what I or any other competitor is bidding on??? >>

Because we want to stalk you.

Russ, NCNE

sonofagunk · November 10, 2006 9:59AM

lloydmincy writes:

love it.
...
can't believe e-bay (which I never waste my time with),

Then why are you even responding to the thread?

BlindedByEgo · November 10, 2006 10:10AM

<< Why do you guys keep saying SHILL???

I love it. Someone gets someone else to bid on their items, and it is called SHILL. What a crock. You don't have to bid on it if you don't want to. Ironic - The "You SUCK" posts are usually about someone "trying" to pull off a steal from some e-bay seller. Why do you need to know what I or any other competitor is bidding on??? Can't you handle picking an item and bidding it accordingly for yourself???

I can't believe e-bay (which I never waste my time with), even allowed you to see what other lots someone was bidding on --- WHERE'S THE PRIVACY??? Looks like they are moving in the right direction. >>

Hey Lloyd - if you don't use Ebay, you have no right to an opinion.

topstuf · November 10, 2006 10:23AM

Ebay LOVES shill bidding. Anything to get the final price up.

TwoSides2aCoin · November 10, 2006 10:32AM

Do you know the difference between a pick pocket and a peeping tom ?

~a pickpocket snatches watches~

lloydmincy · November 10, 2006 10:44AM

<<Then why are you even responding to the thread?>>

To bug you guys!

<<Because we want to stalk you. >>

I love female stalkers

<<you have no right to an opinion...>>

O.K., I'll shut up. Forgot I reside in North Korea.

Twosides2acoin:

KentuckyJ · November 11, 2006 4:04AM

> To protect bidder privacy, not all items that this member has bid on may be displayed.
> auction items, bold price means at least one bid has been received.

Bummer. There are lots of times I look to see what my competition is bidding on rather than do my own searches. White House Easter eggs are one example where I do this. Ebay will get less of my bids now because I may not know an item is out there. Obviously, I can't play this game with the people who exclusively snipe their items.

On the good side, I'll save some money and those of you who don't want us seeing your bids will be one notch happier

KJ

Kimchee · November 11, 2006 5:24AM

To those who see this change as good, the reason many see it as bad lies in the definition of shill bidding. With this change, I could (if i wanted to) create a second Ebay account ID and use that second account ID to bid on items my primary ID (i.e., me) is selling, in other words, bidding on my own auctions to increase the item's sale price, or to buy the item to prevent someone else from getting it at price I consider to be too low. And Ebay won't look for, investigate or punish people who do this, because this practice increases buy prices and therefore increases Ebay's profits.

A question I have is how do look up auctions an ebay member has won? I didn't know this ability existed. Is it part of a new (ebay) software program? It could reveal if a buyer is buying cheapo low grade coins and reselling them by increasing the stated grade (dmplrainbow was infamous at this).

Kimchee

WinPitcher · November 11, 2006 5:30AM

It also prevents people from running up competitors.

Steve

bestday · November 11, 2006 6:01AM

<< It also prevents people from running up competitors.

Steve >>

Quite the contrary.,some bidders will play games just to run up your bid and not be ID-ed....... Auction snipers for me..no more max bid on the bay Sellers in the long run will lose out on this measure.

One thing lost in this, is another cost saving measure by Ebay...less servers needed to keep stored info on bidders....

WinPitcher · November 11, 2006 8:30AM

Best

wouldn't I still be able to see who ran me up in each auction using the bid history?

What I think we were talking about here was the feature that Ebay had showing every auction a particular bidder had bids on. The single auction format page still allows for its history.

That is why i made my comment. besides using it as a tool to ferret out shills it also will hinder those person intent on running up competitors. They will no longer see by a simple click of the mouse what auctions anyone else has place bids on. For awhile last year the same guy would place bids on every card i needed ( that is every card i had a bid on) . he either wanted to drive the price up to keep its value, or just wanted me to pay more. It got to the point where I had to snipe only.

Steve

Russ · November 11, 2006 9:21AM

<< wouldn't I still be able to see who ran me up in each auction using the bid history? >>

Once the change is fully implemented, no. All you'll see is Bidder 1, Bidder 2, Bidder 3, etc.

Russ, NCNE

stev32k · November 11, 2006 9:28AM

The new system obviously has a bug or two. I just looked up my bidding history and the only thing it shows is one unsuccessful bid. In fact I have bid, won, and lost on several items - not just coins.

LindeDad · November 11, 2006 10:46AM

Kimchee

Yes you can have two acounts but if you bid on your own auctions you will be kicked off eBay on both accounts. They can still, and do, track the IP addresses.

Ask a couple of the menbers about it????????

WinPitcher · November 12, 2006 12:27AM

Thanks for the info Russ

Steve

themetalsign · November 12, 2006 11:33PM

Ebay doesn't care about shilling. It makes them many more multi-millions.

MacCrimmon · November 12, 2006 11:53PM

<< 

<< I hope this is the new policy, no one has a right to see what I'm bidding on. >>

Well said!

<< " .... Now when I check what my competitors are bidding on there is a notation that "to protect bidder privacy not all items are displayed.....". >>

You have to be joking

>>

This is actually the law in Germany, i.e. eBay Germany and maybe other EU countries have never allowed this access.......

WELCOME TO AMERIKA, COMRADES!!!!!

TavernTreasures · November 14, 2006 7:14PM

It looks like Ebay put things back the way it was. Checked this morning 11/15AM and can now see what my competitors are bidding on. I hope Ebay has realized the error of their new idea. (To those of you who dont like the ability to see what your competitors are bidding on-go to a real live auction where everyone can see who is bidding on what).

RBinTex · November 14, 2006 10:20PM

If they register with a Germany address you can't see anything AT ALL.

shmort6552 · November 14, 2006 11:33PM

I just checked the link that Russ provided and can see all items that they have bid on, 234.
I'd be confused if I bid on more than 5!!

You can no longer see what others are bidding on @ ebay?

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