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1913 Liberty nickel for sale on eBay-Starting bid $15,000-Seems about right

Yesterday, a new eBay seller posted a pic of a 1913 lib nickel, quoting a starting price of $15,000. I have written the seller, no response as of yet.

The pic looks pretty good. May even be one of the known 5 specimens.

Has anyone here ever seen one in this type of condition, for sale, where it is not slabbed, and later confirmed that it is not authentic?

Edit: 4 bids, highest $150,000, reserve met , now $300,000 , $1,000,100, and where it will stop, no one knows
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that the lowest grade one is the McDermitt piece, which was sort of a PR-60. It has somewhat rough surfaces and really is not all that attractive.

    None of the 1913 nickels show signs of circulaiton.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Oh, it's real, all right -- to the extent that a clandestine, not-authorized coin can be real.

    It's the Eliasberg specimen, PCGS PR-66, the plate coin at coinfacts.com:

    Here it is

    Not as though this so-called seller actually *has* it, of course.
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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The McDermitt coin was graded PF55 by NGC. The coin in the Ebay auction is the Eliasberg coin. Maybe Laura has a new ebay name.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    << <i>The McDermitt coin was graded PF55 by NGC. The coin in the Ebay auction is the Eliasberg coin. Maybe Laura has a new ebay name. >>



    And moved to Salt Lake City, Utah
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What really gets me is that if I bid and win for $15,000, it will cost me another $57 in shipping!image
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What really gets me is that if I bid and win for $15,000, it will cost me another $57 in shipping!image >>

    I wonder if they'll combine shipping if I also win an 1804 dollar and a 1933 Saint from them.
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    up to $150k.
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    The high bidder at $150,000 has bought from Laura recently.
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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was interested until I saw this. NO MONEY GRAHMS
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    It is up to $150,000 now and the reserve is met. Something very strange here. Check this out:

    The high bidder (jan9101) also bid on a Legend (flowinghair) coin. Legend has a 1913 Nickel, right? Here's the feedback left:

    Great communication. A pleasure to do business with. AAA+++
    Seller flowinghair ( 460) Oct-04-05 14:11 8339297500


    Any ideas as to what is going on here? Maybe jan9101 really wants a 1913 nickel, but wants to save a few million dollars??
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    UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭
    Reserve met!!! image

    Smoebody needs some cash!!!!

    Joe. image
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    Up to $300k now. Bid early, bid often....and have full confidence in the seller with zero feedback who will not take money "grahms".

    I'm off to bid...!!
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmmm - Laura's in Las Vegas. Must have craapped out once too often! image
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    cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    I sent the seller the below.

    <<Are you the actual owner or are you working as an agent for the owner?>>
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
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    VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    Darn!

    I was high bidder for a minute there.

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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    jan9101 wants it bad.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Up to $2,000,100 now. Which one of you guys did that? image
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    UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭
    Are there eBAy fees to pay to list the coin even if the auction is removed regardless of reason?

    Joe.
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    We got a bidding war. 2.8 mil
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, now - if I paid $4,150,000 for it once, I'm certainly willing to do so a second time! image
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
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    The purchase amount is to be paid in full before delivery.This means that the Pay-Pal,personal check and Money Order has been cleared by my bank account.NO MONEY GRAHMS!!!Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery.Please send personal check or money order to: Carl Panesi 3563 Wasatch Grove Lane Salt Lake City,Utah 84121


    We can always go pay her a visit!!!
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    PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭✭
    This guy is probably kicking himself for not joining Ebay sooner. I have no problem sending $4,000,000 to a total stranger who's listing his first auction.image

    Joe
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whatever it sells for, it's gonna cost him $1,000,000 more to buy it from Legend. But maybe he can make it up on volume. image
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL! I goaded John with an email stating "only $3M - where is your confidence in the market?". Now he just outbid me.

    $100 sugar! Now who said it was a bad investment? image
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    You know what would be really sweet wih this auction. If someone in the Salt Lake area could win it and then go out to his address to pick it up in person. . . .taking along a couple of Salt Lake City police officers for security of course. Then when he has to admit that he doesn't have the coin they can go ahead and arrest him for fraud right there.
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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "You know what would be really sweet wih this auction. If someone in the Salt Lake area could win it and then go out to his address to pick it up in person. . . .taking along a couple of Salt Lake City police officers for security of course. Then when he has to admit that he doesn't have the coin they can go ahead and arrest him for fraud right there."

    gee if the seller is "clever" enough to pull a "questionable" transaction like this, what makes you think that is a real address; it might be a pob or a mail drop off addy;


    on the other hand, NO MONEY GRAHMS so who "nose"
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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seller doesn't live too far from my house. Maybe I will drop by his home (his address is listed in the auction) and check the coin out for myself. image

    Tyler
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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You guys are a riot!

    Who knew - fun with coinsimage
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    On the subject of scams, my $ is on these two listings, as well - I just can't prove it at this point:

    #1

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    $$$$$$$$$$$$ for modern crap?
    know what you don't know.

    hi, i'm tom.

    i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>On the subject of scams, my $ is on these two listings, as well - I just can't prove it at this point: >>



    I think your instincts are on the money.

    Russ, NCNE
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Hey! It won't let me bid more than 99 million! image

    Russ, NCNE
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    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
    I have a feeling that someone does not like Carl, the purported seller of the coin.
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Bidding has ended at 99 mil. image
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awww - the auction has ended. image
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    krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Looks like ebay automatically ends them once the maximum possible bid has been entered.

    Too bad for you shills. image

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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    You have to admit that the seller is very clever. He listed a 1996 Kobe Bryant card for $26 to show that he sells other items besides extremely rare coins. That's what really fooled me. I almost bid on his 1913! Bidding ended at $99,000,000, which is $240 more that I was willing to go.

    Can't wait to read about this one in the news! My guess is that this is a 13 year old juvenile delinquent.
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    what are eBay final value fees?
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    Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    Hé, he has anothere one

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    Dennis
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


    << <i>what are eBay final value fees? >>

    In this case, $1,485,013.12. image
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    It says bidding has ended, if you are the winner sign in for your status. Is jan9101 a member here and if so what is the status!!!
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    It is at $100 more than Legend paid for it. I guess that would be a fair profit.
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    Will you guys stop picking on the poor kid! Just let him sell his nickel in peace. image
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    PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭✭
    Fortunately, the reserve was met; I was afraid this seller was gonna get greedy.

    I'm sure Compucheap is breathing easier; I know for a fact that he has less than $99,000,000 to his name and he wouldn't spend it all on one coin.image

    Joe
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    I wanted that coin- but smoebody outbid me....image


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    RickMilauskasRickMilauskas Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭
    Maybe he has a whole roll of them along with a roll of the 1933 St Gaudens Double Eagles
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    CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    This one is only at $4,150,000. The last one went for $99 million. Looks like the bottom has dropped out of the market. The bidder on the first one should have listened to Laura's warning about not buying widgets at auction.

    CG

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