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Really sick of this doofus's auctions..
maddogale
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coming into my saved searches!! 
Here's a typical piece of shiite from this cornball!!
xf? yeah right
Here's a typical piece of shiite from this cornball!! xf? yeah right
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on; I don't do these things to other people, I require the same from them."
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The Lincoln cent store:
http://www.lincolncent.com
My numismatic art work:
http://www.cdaughtrey.com
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I said to myself,
"Hmm... whaddya wanna bet he's talkin' about ernie?"
before I even clicked the link.
He pops up a lot in my saved searches, too, but that's
because I am a holey coin guy, and he is the number one
seller of scarcer holey coins (don't laugh too hard, please).
You can throw his grades out the window, and usually his
prices would scare off even a regular HSN customer, but he
does have a decent selection, much of it stuff you just don't
see every day. I've bought from him twice, for my Holey
Coin Vest and Holey Gold Hat project. In fact, both coins
are in the small sampling pictured below: the ND (1783)
Washington double-headed cent, and the 1856-S $2.50 Lib.
Maybe I paid too much for 'em, but I have no objections.
He was fine to deal with- no problems.
Just because I am a collector of holed (i.e., "damaged") coins, doesn't mean I don't like eye appeal. My favorite coins are the "heartbreakers"- ones that would be scarce and/or high grade and desirable to a "normal" collector, if they weren't holed.
Believe it or not, I once picked up one of his coins that was UNDERgraded.
Notice he is an ANA member....
Interesting.
John
siliconvalleycoins.com
Tom
He has at least one other eBay ID that he sells under. Under that ID he has been listing a lot of love tokens lately. Otherwise he uses this other ID to list a lot of items with a starting bid of $.69
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Interesting you linked an auction for an 1840-O quarter, because I did buy this from him a year or so ago:
which I think he also described as a VF/XF and priced a bit lower than the current auction.
I am happy with the coin, it is original and uncleaned, and had been unable to find a suitable example of this date elsewhere.
I find many of his coins attractive and want to buy them, just not at the starting prices. others are cr@p and wouldn't have them at any price.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
roadrunner
1840-O no reserve
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Always looking for nice type coins
my local dealer
In the Search function, click on the "By Seller" tab. Type your search terms in the lower half of the box (the one that says it is for multiple sellers). Then, before running the search, place the seller ID(s) you want to exclude in the next box and the radio button for "Find items excluding these sellers." Now run your search and resave the results.
You will no longer be burdened by this sellers auctions.
WH
Stop being jealous of our merchandise and nit picking based on photos, until you see the coins in person, you have nothing to complain about.
Hi. I suppose it's only fair you join us.
But you DO sell damaged coins! I know because I bought two of 'em!
And I like 'em!
<< <i>If we sold overgraded and damaged coins would people leave us positive feedback? >>
Well, as a matter of fact, yes! I think you have at least two from me!
I do think you rather heinously overgrade. But I give you full credit for a nice selection, and professional service. You've taken some knocks in this thread, but you deserve credit where credit is due.
One of the problems of having 1,000 items on ebay at a time is people can see how much stuff you have and make a bigger target for ourselves. We have MUCH better photos than MOST of the sellers on ebay and that allows people to criticize us more. Had we posted dark, foggy, pictures, no one would bid, and people that would bid would be dissapointed and return much more stuff.
Believe it or not, we ship 2-300 packages a month and we get less than 5 returns a month. We do not overgrade, we grade to the commercial market. Open up a coin world and place a $500 order with the "big" advertisers and see what you get. Forget the grade, buy the coin. If we call it F/VF and price it at $75 and you think the coin is a nice VG, then ask yourself "Is it worth $75?" if it is, buy it, if not, then pass.
Why not call your coins what they really grade then? Why not call it a VG if it is a VG and price it to what you want?
John
siliconvalleycoins.com
The ribbon is raised, the fingers are split, the sandal and the foot are split, the neck line is clear, LIBERTY is clear (although the photo does not show it). On the reverse, about 3/4 of the feathers are visible. Sounds like a VF to me. It is clear from the photo that the coin was obviously weakly struck as is common with coinage from the first few years in New Orleans. There is more to coin grading than just looking at details.
Edit to add: my grade on it is VG10, maybe a technical Fine, only because of the full LIBERTY. Otherwise I would give it an 08.
Still waiting for an answer from my previous post.
Wingedlib- The coin is not a VG detail wise. F/VF to me according to ANA standards. Full liberty, wing detail. Perhaps a NET VG as the coin looks cleaned to me as well but pics can be deceiving.
John
siliconvalleycoins.com
We need one of the experienced dealers to chime in for clarity but that is a nice Fine (detail wise) to me.
Very doubtful about the "never been cleaned" statement. Need to see surfaces to be sure though.
John
siliconvalleycoins.com
As I said, look at them in person, the coins are sharper as many of our repeat customers (as backed up by our feedback) have found out.
(I won't share the popular saying on that...)
Will be the first to admit I'm no Seated specialist.
<< <i>We do not overgrade, we grade to the commercial market. Open up a coin world and place a $500 order with the "big" advertisers and see what you get. Forget the grade, buy the coin. >>
Translation: I want to be like those sleazebag full-page ad dealers that rip people off left and right.
Ernie - if you're so proud of your pics, why bother listing a grade? It just turns off knowledgeable collectors. Or, is it those are the collectors you're trying to avoid, hence your excellent feedback?
Ernie...you are right about one thing, many early coins were "wiped" or cleaned at one time or another, many were not. THAT IS NOT THE REAL ISSUE OR INTENT OF MY POST.....Grading, boy, GRADING!!!!! The auction I linked to shows an overgraded coin, period. I am not an expert on seated coins, but there are many here who know the series well, and they agree. You do get a lot of uncommon dates which is fine, and for a "lightly" cleaned coin, I wouldn't mind getting the more rare dates. But quite a few/most of your coins are way overgraded or way overpriced for the grade, despite the population rarity. Now obviously you have some good sources for your coins, and I would assume that many are purchased from estates or estate auctions. Most likely you are buying the whole collection where possible. I doubt your costs on many of these coins is anywhere near your starting prices, so essentially you are bumping up a grade (or two) and really trying to rake on these coins. Try not posting a grade, offer close up views of the coins, and lowering your start price. Better yet, take four of your VF/XF coins and send them in to PCGS or NGC. See what they say....and don't come across with the "grading is subjective" line. Use the coins that are slabbed as a general guidline to what the "market" grade is.
you can tell. I've looked at at least 2 dozen better date coins under Ernie's auctions and have yet to find one with detail commensurate with the advertised grade. And in nearly every case the surfaces had the typical "too shiny" and "too smooth" look from being abrasively cleaned at one time. Believe me, I don't spend hours a week searching ebay for my health. I'm looking to buy. If these auctions had what I was looking for I'd be bidding and coming back for more.
When I first started buying better dates in the early 1970's I bought marginal stuff not knowing that there was better material. Heck, my first seated quarter ever was an 1843-0 in VG from Edgar's in Vienna, WV. Got it via a Coin World ad for all of $15 in 1973. It didn't bother me than that 2 huge "x's" were carved into each obv field! I just loved the date. We all eventually get smarter.
And it is very difficult to be able to find uncleaned and unscrubbed better date seated coins. That's what makes them valuable and desireable. I don't condone the usual commercial grading and for the most part the grading services don't either.
roadrunner
The coins were as pictured in his Ebay listing. I thought they were about 10 points over-graded and cleaned. He did not list them at what was in my opinion the correct grade nor did he mention they had been cleaned. With this knowledge of the overgrading and cleaning, I bid and won. When I received the two coins they were as I expected....overgraded and cleaned. I sent them into ANACS and they came back with a details grade ten points below his description and net graded another ten points for cleaning. That's what I expected and that's what I bought.
HERE IS WHERE I HAVE THE PROBLEM: I am a fairly knowledgeable collector of seated coins and realized from the decent scans that the grading was innaccurate (by Photograde and ANA standards) and that the coins had been cleaned. However, there are a huge number of new and less-serious collectors that think they are paying for and getting something they are not. That is a problem for me....but I don't blame Ernie. Just like buying from many dealers 30 years ago at a coin show.....the coin is there for you to see and if he overgrades...and you don't know how to grade....well; that's what gives coin collecting such a black eye and has for 40 years.
HERE'S MY OPINION: This is the reason that I think the grading services are valuable to many new and less-serious collectors. The better date, better grade coins should be in slabs if you are a new collector of less-serious collector paying relatively large amounts for better date, better grade coins. Is there inconsistency in the Big Three's grading....absolutely. Is it light years better than relying upon the Ernies of the world for grade and originality....absolutely!
Then, with more experience and after seeing how the "experts" grade a coin and view its originality.....then you are learning to grade and can begin buying the coins raw.
What is the greater cost of tuition? Buying Ernie's coins or paying $15 to $20 additional to have it in a slab. Not to mention...the slab makes the coin more marketable in selling to other new or less-serious collectors.
Thanks for listening to my diatribe.
Contrary to popular belief, we are not paying 1/2 of their value and then trying to double up. We make less than 10% on our sales, we sell most of our inventory to other wholesalers from which I am sure, you all have boughten from one way or another but I can not mention names.
I could sit here all day and post links to slabbed coins that are "overgraded". FWIW, we have been looking at things differently lately and what you see up on ebay is older stock that didn't sell. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head and making them buy the coin. No one is holding a gun to their heads to make them leave positive feedback. We are obviously doing something right as if were were intentionally trying to screw someone we would have been out of business long ago and our feedback would reflect that.
And, to clarify again, learn how to interpret the scans, most of the stuff we list has NOT been harshly cleaned. If it is we say so. Again, to my point above, I can sit here all day and post links to cleaned coins in slabs. We have coins up right now that have been recolored, both large and small cents that would fool many and we have disclosed it. We have some dipped coins that have been listed as dipped. Badly hairlined or whizzed coins are described as such. Again, many people have gotten our coins in slabs at our grade or a grade higher, and No, we are not talking ACG, SEGS, or NTC.
I'm trying to stay fair and open minded here, but the flaming has got to stop.
I don't think you should have taken my post as a negative or a flame. It was in no way meant to be that. As I said, I was satisfied with my transaction, got exactly what I expected, and I left positive feedback. I'll hunt down the #'s and send you a PM.
What you sell with your own grades and with many of the better coins cleaned is little different than 50% of dealers at a local coin show. People get to see the coin and decide for themselves and decide or not decide to buy.
If there was negativity in my slide...it was an admonishment to new collectors that buying a better date, better grade coin in a slab can help them recognize the grade and authenticity....whether they are buying from you or at the local coin show. This thread gives a real-life example of how, in my humble opinion, the slabbing companies have been positive for the coin collecting community....in helping newer, less-serious collectors.
I would not call you a "doofus"....just "your average, old-time coin dealer." And "your average, old-time coin dealer" is not meant to be negative.
he is a stand up guy. mdwoods
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
<< <i>Bought once, was dissatisfied and got a no hassle refund. >>
My earlier post--am glad you're on the board because your auctions do get critical comment. IMO a major problem with your auctions are your scans--they seem to be washed out and may well show your coins worse they would appear in hand. Am not going to get into the high grading issue as it has been discussed at length.
PM sent giving details of most recent transaction and feedback given. Take care.
I didn't see anyone say the coin was no good just over graded and price. but thats your business no theres. I for one know that bi+ching about it is like farting in the wind. Ebay sell can't and won't over grade and actually I like the way you set the price to start with. Up front and no bid game with the darm reserves or canceled auctions at the last minite. that means a lot to me. way to go
about the feed back I see 43 people that think you could have done better.
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Always looking for nice type coins
my local dealer
If that's the case, how about you send me a few of your coins, and I'll photograph them, and then mail them back to you- all I ask is the cost of postage. I'll put up my images and see what the board has to say about the coins.
PM me if you're interested.
Jeremy