Grade is in from PCGS.. 1914 MPL Lincoln Cent PCGS PR62 RB

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 6:18AM

These are the sellers photos, the coin is in the mail. Wanted to wait until it was shipped to post this so that I don't get burned.

SELLERS PHOTOS

MY PHOTOS! I have to say I am extremely happy right now!!

*UPDATE* Well guys the grade is in and they sure knocked this baby down due to the carbon spot on the obv rim. PR-62 RB Still I am one happy camper! Better than a GENNIE Holder IMHO!

Tom

savoyspecial · February 6, 2011 6:20AM

MPL?

drwstr123 · February 6, 2011 6:22AM

Pretty, this came in on Friday:

drwstr123 · February 6, 2011 6:23AM

<< MPL? >>

Sure looks it.

TheRegulator · February 6, 2011 6:23AM

Jinx!

TomB · February 6, 2011 6:24AM

I'm guessing you figure it is a matte proof given the title and date of the coin. The images don't allow me to see any diagnostics for proof status, but that doesn't mean they might not be there. It has been my experience that 1914 matte proofs are very granular, which does not exactly match what I interpret from the images.

commoncents05 · February 6, 2011 6:26AM

Rims look good and detail looks good. Let us know if any diagnostics are evident when you get it in hand.

-Paul

crazyhounddog · February 6, 2011 6:28AM

Looks matte to me....And very nice!!

Edited to say I suck at copper.

TexasNationals · February 6, 2011 6:30AM

Not a MPL and it will bag for cleaning.

crazyhounddog · February 6, 2011 6:30AM

<< Not a MPL and it will bag for cleaning. >>

Party pooper!

llafoe · February 6, 2011 6:33AM

<< Not a MPL and it will bag for cleaning. >>

Why cleaned?

lkeigwin · February 6, 2011 6:33AM

I hope he gave you pix of the entire coin. I don't trust those that crop out portions. Makes me suspicious of the rims.

It might very well be a proof. I hope so.

Looks like it might have some carbon spotting.

Looks very nice. Congrats! Show us pix when it arrives.
Lance.

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 6:40AM

<< I hope he gave you pix of the entire coin. I don't trust those that crop out portions. Makes me suspicious of the rims.

It might very well be a proof. I hope so.

Looks like it might have some carbon spotting.

Looks very nice. Congrats! Show us pix when it arrives.
Lance. >>

Lance I agree with you, The cropped portions make this one questionable. It the original auction photo the diagnostic on the date is there for sure. I had a resident MPL collector here take a look at the auction after I won. He agreed with me. Worth a gamble for the price I paid. Also someone else thought it was an MPL too. That is why the bidding went over $200

Tom

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 6:41AM

<< I'm guessing you figure it is a matte proof given the title and date of the coin. The images don't allow me to see any diagnostics for proof status, but that doesn't mean they might not be there. It has been my experience that 1914 matte proofs are very granular, which does not exactly match what I interpret from the images. >>

Tom, the images are horrible. I will give you that. Look at the hair and the rims. Pretty strong candidate IMHO.

Edited to add, here is the link to the diagnostics thread.. 1914 MPL diagnostics

coinbuf · February 6, 2011 6:42AM

Hmmm well we wont know how you did untill you post some better pics. It could be an MPL but like Lance I'm worried about the rims. If you look at around the date area the rim looks to have a rough spot; hope it turns out good for you.

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 6:45AM

The die chip on the 1 in the date is there even in these crappy pics.

robec · February 6, 2011 7:05AM

<< Rims look good and detail looks good. Let us know if any diagnostics are evident when you get it in hand.

-Paul >>

The rims sure do look matte.

BWRC · February 6, 2011 7:37AM

I would vote in favor of the coin being an MPL. The coin appears to have some knife edge like this MPL.

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 9:38AM

Thanks Brian! I was awaiting your comments on this one.

I hope it looks nice in hand.

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 12:13PM

<< Not a MPL and it will bag for cleaning. >>

Why would you say that? I wouldn't have bid on it if I didn't think it was a MPL? What makes you think the coin was cleaned?

ambro51 · February 6, 2011 12:19PM

Relax. You have the die chip and the color looks right for decades of mint tissue storage.

WaterSport · February 6, 2011 12:58PM

Well, I hope you did score. I saw the coin, but the seller said nothing about it being a MPL. The problem with 1914's in general, is that they can be hammered like this one. I hate to look stupid after Brian has spoken, but I do not think its an MPL because the left rims are not full enough IMHO, But I hope I am wrong.

WS

Tdec1000 · February 6, 2011 1:07PM

WS, I think that is just the angle of the photo when it was taken. Still a bit worried that the rims are not right but we will see. I don't believe the seller knew it was an MPL and he would have listed it as such had he known. I have talked to a lot of older collectors who said that know they probably had a few MPL's in their collections but just thought that they were really well struck buisness strikes.

Teva · February 6, 2011 1:08PM

I think it may be? But looks like something going on in the beard?
Its probably just the image? Good luck

kurtdog · February 6, 2011 1:20PM

That surface looks matte in that top photo. Think ya did good kiddo.

rlarick · February 6, 2011 5:28PM

<< 

<< Also someone else thought it was an MPL too. That is why the bidding went over $200 >>

grrrrrrrr

pennyannie · February 6, 2011 6:16PM

I hope it turns out to be a MPL. You could have gotten a slabbed one for a few more bucks this weekend at Heritage. tHEY HAD 20 OF THEM THAT DID POORLY AT action in the 60 to 63 grade range. They had a few cleaned ones that did even worse. The MPL fad is over.

ambro51 · February 6, 2011 10:24PM

Tdec, you should realize that on this forum many people here will almost as a 'reflex action' nay say anything any given poster writes. They will take any opportunity to pour a glass of cold water on someones head. Whether they know the series, understand the diagnostics, or have ever owned a particular coin.....they can become an 'expert' just by saying NO NO NO NO NO NO.

And when that fails, they will tell you your whole coin series is garbage.

Its just human nature, since they cannot fix their own car or talk back to their wife any longer.

Its just human nature.

Such are the risks of posting ANYTHING on this forum....you will get these reactions from a few people in the peanut gallery.

Regardless, the key diagnostic on a 1914 Matte Proof Lincoln is that small die chip that comes upward from the right side of the top of the first 1 in 1914.

......and that key diagnostic is on your new coin. (period)

And as they naysay this...and they patiently wait for the sun to rise in the west....you cherrypicked a great piece at a fraction of its value. Now...you need to get that sucker in hand and then whisk it off to PCGS for slabbing. Then......those who disbelieve will pivot their heads from the west...waiting for the sun to rise....and acknowledge you have a 14 mattie.

ColonelJessup · February 6, 2011 11:32PM

From the photos it looks like a lock MPL.

And I bought over half the MPL's in Heritage.

Tdec1000 · February 7, 2011 4:56AM

Thanks Ambro!

I will have pictures as soon as it arrives this week.

ambro51 · February 7, 2011 5:06AM

PM me with the photos when you get it and we'll compare it to the diagnostics in Albrechts pamphlet and Flynns book.

Let me take a good look before you throw it to the den of carnivores here.

PS thanks supporters for speaking up.

robec · February 7, 2011 5:16AM

There were only 2, possibly 3 posters in this thread who didn't speak in a positive vein at the chances of this being a matte. Hardly a den of carnivores here.

Tdec1000 · February 7, 2011 6:23AM

<< PM me with the photos when you get it and we'll compare it to the diagnostics in Albrechts pamphlet and Flynns book.

Let me take a good look before you throw it to the den of carnivores here.

PS thanks supporters for speaking up. >>

Ambro, I don't think that will be needed. There is no question after I post the photos. The coin just came in. Pictures in a minute buddy. What a pleasant surprise when it arrived. 110% better than the photos.

I am cheesin from ear to ear right now!!

Pictures in the first post!

llafoe · February 7, 2011 6:41AM

It has the marker alright... at 2 o'clock on the rim!

Nice cherrypick!

SUMORADA · February 7, 2011 6:46AM

...........you suck

djdilliodon · February 7, 2011 6:49AM

Yep you def suck!

Baley · February 7, 2011 6:52AM

Wow, coingrats! Wonderful looking piece

richardshipp · February 7, 2011 6:54AM

robec · February 7, 2011 7:13AM

Slam dunk Matte. Great cherry!!

AUandAG · February 7, 2011 7:15AM

That's one nice Penny! Can't wait to see the grade. Your pics are wonderful and
I have no idea whether this is an MPL or not but it seems the board says it is!
Congrats must be in order!!

bob

RedHerring · February 7, 2011 7:20AM

I grade it $400.

Nice pick up!

lkeigwin · February 7, 2011 7:23AM

That's just awesome!!! Beautiful. So happy for you!
Lance.

drwstr123 · February 7, 2011 7:25AM

Score!!!

BWRC · February 7, 2011 8:28AM

YEP!

SkyMan · February 7, 2011 8:32AM

Congratulations! That is excellent!

Tdec1000 · February 7, 2011 8:33AM

The thing that bothers me is the carbon spot or dirt can't tell what it is just yet at the 12:00 rim obverse. I will have to look at it a bit better when I get home.

PCcoins · February 7, 2011 8:59AM

<< The thing that bothers me is the carbon spot or dirt can't tell what it is just yet at the 12:00 rim obverse. I will have to look at it a bit better when I get home. >>

It bothers me too, try an acetone soak, might help some.

Now did you buy it as a non-MPL?

coinkid855 · February 7, 2011 9:00AM

<< 

<< The thing that bothers me is the carbon spot or dirt can't tell what it is just yet at the 12:00 rim obverse. I will have to look at it a bit better when I get home. >>

It bothers me too, try an acetone soak, might help some.

Now did you buy it as a non-MPL? >>

Yup, he picked it. Awesome coin and great eye!! The coin is really pretty in your pictures!!

-Paul

Studio60 · February 7, 2011 9:03AM

<< I grade it $400.

Nice pick up!

>>

Agreed but I'd easily double that estimate. No, looking at that photo again, triple.

Wolf359 · February 7, 2011 9:07AM

Nice score!

TomB · February 7, 2011 9:09AM

Holy Smokes! It looks sooooo different from the seller's images!

Grade is in from PCGS.. 1914 MPL Lincoln Cent PCGS PR62 RB

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