Complete U.S. Circulating Coins Type Set

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:09AM

  I'll start with some modern additions:
  
  1. Nickel commemoratives 2004-2005
  
  2. New Nickel design 2006-
  
  3. "Small head" Kennedy Half (I'm not sure about the date but I think it started in the early 90's)
  

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• Leiana Posts: 4,349 ✭

  November 19, 2006 7:09AM

  I would add a 1944 Shell casing composition Lincoln cent, as well as separating the Jefferson nickels into two subtypes for the initials on the bust that were added in 1960.
  
  Also, there was a design change to the Indian Head cent in 1868 I beleive, and the 1921 Buffalo nickel is almost sufficiently different to be it's own type.
  
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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:10AM

  Also, we might as well add the new presedential dollar coins

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• mrcommem Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:21AM

  If you are going to have a circulating type set you must leave out the following:
  
  1976 40% Silver Bicentennial Coins-Dollar, half, quarter
  All State Quarters that are 90 silver
  
  These coins were in special mint or proof sets not meant for circulation

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:22AM

  
  
  << <i>If you are going to have a circulating type set you must leave out the following:
  
  1976 40% Silver Bicentennial Coins-Dollar, half, quarter
  All State Quarters that are 90 silver
  
  These coins were in special mint or proof sets not meant for circulation >>
  
  
  
  Good Point!
  
  Maybe the bullion coins should be left out as well.

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• sumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:24AM

  The bullion too should be removed from the list since they do not circulate.
  
  Also, the Sac has not been minted for circulation since 2001. The 1981 SBA was also only included in mint sets. There are a number of Kennedy half issues that were only included in mint sets as well. You have to go through the Red Book and find which were produced only for mint sets.

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:25AM

  
  
  << <i>The bullion too should be removed from the list since they do not circulate. >>
  
  
  
  Funny, I was just editing my earlier post to say this exact same thing at the same time you were posting your message.

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• sumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:28AM

  And all the silver Ikes need to be removed.

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• itsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:37AM

  Concur on all the leave out suggestions.
  
  Add the Zinc (1982 - ) Lincoln.
  
  In 2009 you can add the special Lincolns that circulate.

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:38AM

  I've edited the original list. We still need more info on the 1921 Nickel, and the 1868 Indian Head design change.
  
  Do we need to specify which coins within a date range were not released for circulation?
  
  

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• itsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 7:47AM

  Laso, you might choose to break SLQs into 3.
  
  T1 1916-1917
  T2 1917-1924
  T3 1925-1930

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• Leiana Posts: 4,349 ✭

  November 19, 2006 7:49AM

  The 1921(PDS) nickels are the only ones to have serifed ones. All the others have plain ones.
  
  In 1886 (not 68 ) the Indian Head design was changed slightly. The first variety has the last feather of the headdress pointing between I and C of AMERICA while on the second variety it points between C and A.
  
  Also, the 1921 Morgan Dollar is different from all the other Morgan dollars. Additionally, there are the eight tail feather 1878 Morgans.
  
  -Amanda

  
  
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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 8:15AM

  Original list updated

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• Artist Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 8:17AM

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• TomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 8:59AM

  You should probably define what is a type and what is a variety and then follow your definitions instead of soliciting ideas from folks who likely do not share the same definitions of these most often abused and misunderstood terms. In my opinion, you are missing some type pieces and also have included useless varieties. Figure out the definitions and your task will be much easier.

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• Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 9:21AM

  I like the list in the OP, I'm missing 26 types.

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 9:40AM

  
  
  << <i>I like the list in the OP, I'm missing 26 types. >>
  
  
  
  What is the OP?
  
  Nevermind. I think you meant original post, right?
  
  Actually, that is not the original post anymore. I've been editing it to reflect the recommendations of the posters so far.

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 9:42AM

  
  
  << <i>You should probably define what is a type and what is a variety and then follow your definitions instead of soliciting ideas from folks who likely do not share the same definitions of these most often abused and misunderstood terms. In my opinion, you are missing some type pieces and also have included useless varieties. Figure out the definitions and your task will be much easier. >>
  
  
  
  Which pieces do you conisder useless varieties and which pieces do you feel are missing from the list?

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 9:49AM

  Type - A variation in design, size, or metallic content of a coin.
  
  Variety - A slight variation in design of a coin.
  
  I don't really see that there can be a clear line between these two, but each of us has an instinct as to what should be included on a list like this.
  
  Let's go with the popular consensus.

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 10:17AM

  
  
  << <i>I like the list in the OP, I'm missing 26 types. >>
  
  
  
  I started counting how many I am missing, and once I got up to 70 I gave up!

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• ModernDollarNut Posts: 886

  November 19, 2006 10:28AM

  
  
  << <i>Type - A variation in design, size, or metallic content of a coin.
  
  Variety - A slight variation in design of a coin.
  
  I don't really see that there can be a clear line between these two, but each of us has an instinct as to what should be included on a list like this.
  
  Let's go with the popular consensus. >>
  
  
  
  
  Applying this to Ikes and you have a remarkable number of different varieties which is in fact the case. Even ignoring the silver BS Ikes which were not for-circulation coins, you still have two different obverse and at least four different reverse non-Bicentennial designs, and of course the two Bicentennial designs.
  
  In other words, I agree with you - each collector needs to set his own guidelines. I am looking forward to beginning a modern type set of circulation coins in the years to follow: the most challenging aspect will be determining the rules of the game. Rob

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2006 10:30AM

  
  
  << <i>
  
  << <i>Type - A variation in design, size, or metallic content of a coin.
  
  Variety - A slight variation in design of a coin.
  
  I don't really see that there can be a clear line between these two, but each of us has an instinct as to what should be included on a list like this.
  
  Let's go with the popular consensus. >>
  
  
  
  
  Applying this to Ikes and you have a remarkable number of different varieties which is in fact the case. Even ignoring the silver BS Ikes which were not for-circulation coins, you still have two different obverse and at least four different reverse non-Bicentennial designs, and of course the two Bicentennial designs.
  
  In other words, I agree with you - each collector needs to set his own guidelines. I am looking forward to beginning a modern type set of circulation coins in the years to follow: the most challenging aspect will be determining the rules of the game. Rob >>
  
  
  
  Oh yeah, I forgot about the type 1 and type 2 Ike, Kennedy, and SBA coins.

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• coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭

  November 20, 2006 2:32PM

  It'd be kick butt if someone had a complete set of every single coin minted for circulation! In atleast vf or better?
  Wonder how much it would cost to assemble and how much it'd sell for once complete.

  

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  November 21, 2006 10:26AM

  There are a few coins that are close to impossible for the average collector to obtain. I'm still trying to figure out what that complete list would look like. It's so difficult to draw the line between "type" and "variety."

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• mrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭

  December 30, 2006 3:32PM

  Very interesting, I'm going to start with the list you have in the original post and add my thoughts to it for my type set, thanks for the thread and saving me a lot of work
  
  Ray

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• clackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭

  December 30, 2006 5:53PM

  What about changes in relief of coins, should they be in a design type? For instance the relief on a 1998 Washington is not the same as a 1968 Wasington. Same with Jefferson's and Lincoln's. Also there have been several small design changes within the Lincoln Wheats. A 1919 does not look like a 55-S.

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• billboat Posts: 2,260

  December 31, 2006 2:41AM

  For capped bust halves there were 8 design and sub-design types.
  
  Type 1: 1807-08,
  Type 2: 1809-11,
  Type 3: 1812-17,
  Type 4: 1817-25,
  Type 5: 1825-31,
  Type 6: 1832-34,
  Type 7: 1834,
  Type 8: 1834-36 (This list taken from Ed Souders "BH Fever"1st Edition)
  
  Also 2 types of reeded edge capped bust halves:
  
  "50 cents" 1836-37
  "Half Dol." 1838-39

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• rec78 Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

  December 31, 2006 4:05AM

  This discussion could go on a long time- You have to decide for yourself what is a different type. For instance:
  Should the 1817 fifteen stars large cent be considered a different type? To me a 1909 VDB is not a different type only a variation.
  Or how about the early 15 star, 16 star and 13 star half dimes and dimes? (there is also a 14 star variety for the1804 dime) Some bust dollars have 10 stars on the left with 6 on the right while other have 9 stars on the left and 7 on the right . Some Bust dollars dollars also have the 13 and 15 star reverses. Are they different types? If a 1909 VDB is to be considered a different type verses any other wheat cent, then by that definition all of the varieties of bust dimes, half dimes and dollars mentioned above ( and probably others) should be considered. JMHO. Bob
  Or maybe the gold coins with CAL.? (1848)
  
  You do not have the 1793 Liberty cap large cent on your list.
  
  O I AM GETTING SO
  

  

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• JoeLewis Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭

  December 31, 2006 4:48AM

  Okay, I've come to a conclusion. In order to have a true complete type set, one must either:
  
  1. Be extremely strict as to what constitutes a "type." That means detailed lists of what constitutes a "type" vs. a "variety." There can be no loop holes. The line between "type" and "variety" must be drawn so that only very major types are included (i.e. only one seated liberty quarter, etc.) This set can be reffered to as a "major design" set instead of a "type set."
  
  2. Let everything count as a "type." That means any minor variation now constitutes a "type." This cuts out any confusion as to what constitutes a "type." In other words, there is no difference between a "type" and a "variation." These two terms are now essentially the same.
  
  Or you can forget about the idea of a "complete" type set and just make your own decisions about what you want to collect.
  
  BTW, the 2nd "type" set that is discussed above would be a truly massive collection. I can't imagine anyone actually completing one (to date,) but it would be really cool if someone did!

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• Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

  December 31, 2006 5:19AM

  you nailed it~!
  
  it's a spectrum, and each collector falls somewhere in how they define their set and whether it's "complete"

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• Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

  December 31, 2006 5:21AM

  and with that, here's one nowhere near complete, but a healthy start
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  The Dansco 7070 is not completely comprehensive, but if one were inclined, they could add these tougher types:
  copper
  
  
  half dimes
  
  
  dimes
  
  
  quarters
  
  
  
  half dollar
  
  dollar
  
  
  classic gold
  
  
  three dollar
  
  no motto ten
  
  Twenty D.
  
  
  Happy new year everyone!!
  

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• billboat Posts: 2,260

  December 31, 2006 6:11AM

  Right!!--You can declare victory at any time! It's all in how you define your set--for me I've decided no gold--although that could change once I dispose of all my other collections.
  
  Bill

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• cladking Posts: 28,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

  December 31, 2006 6:35AM

  You can also add the clad quarters with type c and d reverses as well as the proof reverses.
  
  There were significant design changes in '74, '77, '84, and '94.
  
  There were even more reverse changes.

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