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POLL: Should Jack Trout be Contacted Regarding His Saddle Ridge Hoard Theory? UPDATE: Response from

numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭
POLL: Should Jack Trout be Contacted and Linked to This Thread So That He Can Expound on His Saddle Ridge Hoard Theory?

He's easy to contact, as he has a decent internet presence. http://www.jacktrout.com/

Is that going too far? I kinda want to call and talk with him. Just curious about some of his theories. Is it possible that the report completely botched the information (opinions) he provided?

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Want to see something scary? Do a search for "Jack Trout coin" and see how his utter bilge has been picked up all over the interwebz, including several political websites. Even if the San Francisco Chronicle were to publish a retraction tomorrow, the falsehood is spread all over the world.
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, let's invite him and for additional insights, his sister, Brooke.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jack Trout is the NEWmismatic Deep Throat image

    Erik
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    A man of his stripe is certainly welcome here.
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    Something fishy about this story, for sure.

    Maybe he thinks the coins have new-mystical value. image



  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I with the Captain on this.
    You'd get far more credible "theories" from most members here.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd invite Jack to take a long walk on a short pier. Oh, BTW: Does Jack Trout catch flies with his mouth open ?

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, based on the poll, I sent him an email with links to the main threads on the subject. I suggested that he join and participate in the discussions, since it is possible that the press could have twisted his words.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your poll has only been up for 1 hour.
    You at least should have waited for the west coasters to finish supper and gas up the flame throwers.
    Now I know how the Fla. pan-handle folks feel. It's over before they even get to vote. image

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll bet he signed up here at CU just to vote "NO" in this poll image

    Erik
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Your poll has only been up for 1 hour.
    You at least should have waited for the west coasters to finish supper and gas up the flame throwers.
    Now I know how the Fla. pan-handle folks feel. It's over before they even get to vote. image >>




    If this poll ends up with more "No" votes than "Yes" votes by the morning, I will feel bad. It will be like that famous 1948 "Dewey Defeats Truman!" newspaper that was printed before all of the votes were counted.

    P.S. I am on the West Coast, for what it is worth.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Your poll has only been up for 1 hour.
    You at least should have waited for the west coasters to finish supper and gas up the flame throwers.
    Now I know how the Fla. pan-handle folks feel. It's over before they even get to vote. image >>




    If this poll ends up with more "No" votes than "Yes" votes by the morning, I will feel bad. It will be like that famous 1948 "Dewey Defeats Truman!" newspaper that was printed before all of the votes were counted.

    P.S. I am on the West Coast, for what it is worth. >>



    Don't feel bad...if this guy wanted to be left alone he would have never opened his mouth on such a hot-button issue.

    Erik
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    I received a reply from Jack Trout tonight. He was very friendly, and he stated that he would read the threads when he has the chance. He is a fly fishing guide and is currently on assignment in Chile. That sounds like a pretty cool job to me!
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lots of gold in SA. Put down the rod and pick up a pan!

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I received a reply from Jack Trout tonight. He was very friendly, and he stated that he would read the threads when he has the chance. He is a fly fishing guide and is currently on assignment in Chile. That sounds like a pretty cool job to me! >>



    Yeah. I'm anxious to see what he'll propose next to top the whopper he has baited the general public with already. Maybe he and Mint Spokesperson Adam Stump, or better yet Trout and Dave McCarthy could have a Death Cage debate on the facts. image

    Perhaps too many have forgotten the Hodder - Buttrey debates over the issue of Western Assay ingots, hmmm?
    Facts trumped hearsay there too.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd love to hear Jack Trout's theory, but it isn't posted on the link posted.

    My other passion in life is fly fishing, and I have to admit that I probably know more fly fishing guides than I do coin dealers. I have often thrown shiny dimes into a pool of trout and watched as their curiosity drew them to the coins as it sank to the bottom of the stream. I have found trout to be amazing, and they even seem to collect coins. Perhaps they were coin collectors in their prior life....... Maybe Jack knows this too.

    OINK
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's probably doing something fun like fishing for sea run brown trout.....20, 25, 30 pounds. Hard
    to take a job like that one!


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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now it's on the front page of CNN.com, w/a statement from the Mint saying "them ain't our coinz."
  • DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I received a reply from Jack Trout tonight. He was very friendly, and he stated that he would read the threads when he has the chance. He is a fly fishing guide and is currently on assignment in Chile. That sounds like a pretty cool job to me! >>



    Awesome!

    Now where is that popcorn emoticon?

    His day job sounds pretty cool too.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,709 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now it's on the front page of CNN.com, w/a statement from the Mint saying "them ain't our coinz." >>



    linky
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing how unsupported stories take on an air of substance when reported - no facts, all suppositions, but people begin repeating them as if it were fact. Cheers, RickO


  • << <i>Amazing how unsupported stories take on an air of substance when reported - no facts, all suppositions, but people begin repeating them as if it were fact. Cheers, RickO >>



    Makes one wonder what other "news" stories and topics receive this sort of reporting treatment.
    If the MSM told me the sky was blue, I think I would have to look outside to check.
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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
    I tried to give the correct information on Free Republic, but I was banned for lying to protect President Buckwheat....
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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't care about Jack Trout or what he wrote, he is meaningless, however I agree it could very well have come from a robbery. The coins were predominantly in mint state condition and then quickly buried. Why do I say this, well you saw how they were packed in the cans, basically just dumped in and then sealed and buried, a collector wouldn't have done that under any circumstances. These coins were treated as common bullion and were put underground quickly, since they were buried shallow and unprotected while inside the cans. If they were hoarded and then buried or safe keeping they would most likely hid inside a home this looks like a robbery and quick burial to my eyes. >>



    Another baseless conjecture by Alfred E. Neuman. They were obviously not stashed by a collector. They were treated as common bullion because that's what they were at the time. How does anyone conclude "looks like a robbery" ??
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  • << <i>I don't care about Jack Trout or what he wrote, he is meaningless, however I agree it could very well have come from a robbery. The coins were predominantly in mint state condition and then quickly buried. Why do I say this, well you saw how they were packed in the cans, basically just dumped in and then sealed and buried, a collector wouldn't have done that under any circumstances. These coins were treated as common bullion and were put underground quickly, since they were buried shallow and unprotected while inside the cans. If they were hoarded and then buried or safe keeping they would most likely hid inside a home this looks like a robbery and quick burial to my eyes. >>



    But...only 1/3 are MS...
    What would an average collector of the day do? He'd have no knowledge of 64,66, 63 - he put them in cans, buried them. They looked somewhat carefully placed - at least to get as many as possible in there. Until the likely C. 1930 tin-plated odd-sized steel cans deteriorated they were probably reasonably protected to the standards of the say. Remember, cleaning coins was suggested in those days and common enough. What information do we have about the person who buried them and what is speculation?

    Eric
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't care about Jack Trout or what he wrote, he is meaningless, however I agree it could very well have come from a robbery. The coins were predominantly in mint state condition and then quickly buried. Why do I say this, well you saw how they were packed in the cans, basically just dumped in and then sealed and buried, a collector wouldn't have done that under any circumstances. These coins were treated as common bullion and were put underground quickly, since they were buried shallow and unprotected while inside the cans. If they were hoarded and then buried or safe keeping they would most likely hid inside a home this looks like a robbery and quick burial to my eyes. >>



    Another baseless conjecture by Alfred E. Neuman. They were obviously not stashed by a collector. They were treated as common bullion because that's what they were at the time. How does anyone conclude "looks like a robbery" ?? >>



    Someone robbed another collector, hoarder or robber?image
    theknowitalltroll;
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What robber would take the time to sort each can by date? Seems pretty obvious the coins were buried over a period of time, not in haste.
  • Stolen coins may have come pre sorted.
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I received a reply from Jack Trout tonight. He was very friendly, and he stated that he would read the threads when he has the chance. He is a fly fishing guide and is currently on assignment in Chile. That sounds like a pretty cool job to me! >>




    Interesting. The two things I would ask him would be for a more complete explanation of the Lincoln conspiracy theory and if the existence of thousands of No Motto 1866-S Double Eagles changes his view.
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I tried to give the correct information on Free Republic, but I was banned for lying to protect President Buckwheat.... >>



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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I tried to give the correct information on Free Republic, but I was banned for lying to protect President Buckwheat.... >>



    Do I get your mention of Buckwheat correct? Buckwheat, think Spanky and Our Gang, was a girl for the first
    year or two, then the directors decided they wanted a boy in that role so the girl became a boy. Morphed
    over a few episodes so the audience would not notice.
    O***a is a Buckwheat......nah don't go there Bob.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
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