Did someone just score on eBay?

jtlee321 · July 17, 2015 4:14PM

Am I imagining this, or did someone score a dateless 1916 SLQ among this lot of dateless Type I's? Third row down, far right.

Edited to remove the link.

BustHalfBrian · July 17, 2015 4:53PM

Yup, that's a '16 alright

BustHalfBrian · July 17, 2015 4:56PM

About a $2k pay day for some lucky fellow

jtlee321 · July 17, 2015 4:58PM

I wish I could come across these while they are still live..

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD · July 17, 2015 6:16PM

...First off, I like how there has been enough time prior to posting this potential rip for the lot to be shipped to the winner. 2nd off, Good eye to the OP and BHB for noticing and confirming. 3rd off, the buyer may not even know what he or she has due to that there was only 1 bid. Hopefully they know and hopefully they reap the benefit of the rip

Cool thread as I still and have always loved eBay in regards to buying my coins.

morgansforever · July 17, 2015 7:49PM

Pardon my ignorance but aren't these all the Variety 1 type? I don't see any stars below the eagle, so how does one know if it's a 1916?

DoubleEagle59 · July 17, 2015 8:31PM

I'm not seeing the 1916 diagnostics either.

lasvegasteddy · July 17, 2015 9:02PM

<<< in the someone cherry picked a sweet one crowd

i added arrows to the 1916 points of interest
1)notice the lack of rivet details on the shield.............very bold difference
2)the recess in her drapery........................................very bold difference

coindeuce · July 17, 2015 9:41PM

The bottom of the drapery next to the right foot (viewer's left) also has the nearly flat curvature, compared to the distinct radius seen on 1917's. I would disagree with the BHB's assessment of a $2K rip though, unless there is some evidence out there of recent sales of AG/No Date 16's trading in that range.

mbogoman · July 17, 2015 9:47PM

Yep, it was me. It's a 1916 for sure. Also note the single "fat" curl of Liberty's hair - the 1917s have two curls

That was almost a month ago. I've had it in hand for 3 weeks. I'll be sending it in to our host with my next submission. I already sold the dozen 17s on Ebay, so the net cost of the 16 turned out to be $35...

An AG03 went for $2K recently on Ebay. I don't think this one will AG, I think it's more likely to grade at FR02...

JCLIGHTBRIGADE · July 17, 2015 10:26PM

Congrats on the pick up...

291fifth · July 17, 2015 10:45PM

The "key date" mania must be in full swing in order to get anything close to $2000 for a dateless 1916. I wonder how deep that market really is?

Is there any market for these on the bourse floor or does the market just exist on eBay?

sanitarium1inmate · July 17, 2015 10:54PM

nice pick up and great eyes. congrats.

ricko · July 17, 2015 10:55PM

Good eye.... congratulations...Cheers, RickO

keyman64 · July 17, 2015 11:26PM

Cool!

tyler267 · July 18, 2015 1:27AM

Well Done

Type2 · July 18, 2015 2:19AM

Good eye if not $2k it's more then melt...

johnny9434 · July 18, 2015 2:24AM

nice score

Overdate · July 18, 2015 2:29AM

<< An AG03 went for $2K recently on Ebay. I don't think this one will AG, I think it's more likely to grade at FR02... >>

That AG03 was also dateless, so I think yours would fetch well over $1K.

WaterSport · July 18, 2015 2:50AM

Good on you!

WS

mbogoman · July 18, 2015 2:52AM

<< That AG03 was also dateless, so I think yours would fetch well over $1K. >>

That AG03 had a little more meat remaining on it than mine. But...I do agree that mine will likely sell for over $1K once I get it slabbed...

Moldnut · July 18, 2015 3:02AM

Nice find but I would have to agree with some of the others as it's closer to 1k than 2k.

OldEastside · July 18, 2015 4:51AM

Cool Deal................I love posts that are educational

Steve

jtlee321 · July 18, 2015 5:06AM

Nice pick up. If it was my pick up, I'd value it more toward the P-01 range of $1000.00

jtlee321 · July 18, 2015 5:08AM

Also, my quickest way for me to diagnose it as a '16 was the shape of the drapery near Liberty's foot.

desslok · July 18, 2015 5:33AM

That's a great score. I would be happy if you posted the PCGS grade once you slab it.

BustHalfBrian · July 18, 2015 8:34AM

<< The bottom of the drapery next to the right foot (viewer's left) also has the nearly flat curvature, compared to the distinct radius seen on 1917's. I would disagree with the BHB's assessment of a $2K rip though, unless there is some evidence out there of recent sales of AG/No Date 16's trading in that range. >>

evidence

BustHalfBrian · July 18, 2015 8:35AM

<< Nice pick up. If it was my pick up, I'd value it more toward the P-01 range of $1000.00 >>

It would almost certainly grade higher than P01

coindeuce · July 18, 2015 8:44AM

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<< The bottom of the drapery next to the right foot (viewer's left) also has the nearly flat curvature, compared to the distinct radius seen on 1917's. I would disagree with the BHB's assessment of a $2K rip though, unless there is some evidence out there of recent sales of AG/No Date 16's trading in that range. >>

evidence >>

One transaction does not set a market precedent. Everyone can hope for pie in the sky, but without knowing the fine details of that transaction, even if it was a legit sale, its a statistical anomaly.

Wabbit2313 · July 18, 2015 9:08AM

No matter what it grades at, what a nice pick. Great job!!

BustHalfBrian · July 18, 2015 9:10AM

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<< The bottom of the drapery next to the right foot (viewer's left) also has the nearly flat curvature, compared to the distinct radius seen on 1917's. I would disagree with the BHB's assessment of a $2K rip though, unless there is some evidence out there of recent sales of AG/No Date 16's trading in that range. >>

evidence >>

One transaction does not set a market precedent. Everyone can hope for pie in the sky, but without knowing the fine details of that transaction, even if it was a legit sale, its a statistical anomaly. >>

Except it's not a "statistical anomaly"; that is the trending price for a PCGS AG03 example.

jtlee321 · July 18, 2015 10:09AM

Regardless of the price. It pay's to know your series. I just wish I had been looking at these sooner. LOL

coindeuce · July 18, 2015 10:12AM

"Except it's not a "statistical anomaly"; that is the trending price for a PCGS AG03 example."

BHB, I see that you've already decided that mbogoman has a PCGS AG3.

DUIGUY · July 18, 2015 3:11PM

<< Congrats on the pick up...

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NumisOxide · July 18, 2015 3:42PM

Great rip!

hiijacker · July 19, 2015 3:11AM

Here is mine that i found in the wild. I sent it in raw twice to PCGS, and both times they graded is only an AG3. They must be very hard on the dateless quarters

pennyannie · July 19, 2015 4:04AM

I think it is cool, you found it, bought it and it is worth a fair chunk of change, BUT for the life of me I would never pay retail for a dateless SLQ.

s4ny · July 19, 2015 11:12PM

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TwoSides2aCoin · July 19, 2015 11:54PM

Ebay sucks.

So do cherry pickers.

Type2 · July 20, 2015 12:27AM

<< Ebay sucks.

So do cherry pickers. >>

No we pick....

originalisbest · July 20, 2015 1:40AM

<< The "key date" mania must be in full swing in order to get anything close to $2000 for a dateless 1916. I wonder how deep that market really is?

Is there any market for these on the bourse floor or does the market just exist on eBay? >>

What can I possibly say that hasn't already been said? LOL

291fifth, I'll try the soft approach. Even though dateless, a provable example of a genuine 1916 quarter is a desirable item. With it, a collector can proudly "fill that hole", and not have to endure an empty slot staring back at them, or have to pretend that the replica piece thrown in there is the real deal. Now for those who have no interest in anything that well-worn, still it's a worthwhile find as there are certainly people willing to purchase it. Any way you slice it, this type of 1916 is for me, a perfect collector coin for someone interested in completing a basic Standing Lib set in the old-fashioned way of coin board, Library of Coins album, or Capital Plastics set holders. Not so valuable that it's a problem to leave it raw.

Overdate · July 20, 2015 2:10AM

<< Even though dateless, a provable example of a genuine 1916 quarter is a desirable item. With it, a collector can proudly "fill that hole", and not have to endure an empty slot staring back at them, or have to pretend that the replica piece thrown in there is the real deal. >>

When I began collecting in the early 1960s, I would never dream of filling the 1916 SLQ hole with a replica.
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I filled it with a Barber instead.

LanceNewmanOCC · July 20, 2015 2:22AM

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so where does the line lie between those buying to make a profit vs those that buy to make a lot of profit, or create wealth/value with knowledge?

from my experience, no seller of coins turns down making a large profit every single time nor do they avoid such behavior.

if it only applies to marriages and varieties, what about toners, errors etc. how about the greysheet, redbook etc. a lot of info is listed right there.

the numismatic playground isn't some government underground black site, at least to my knowledge.

i propose to just have 2 categories. those that are educated and those that aren't. numismatically speaking. although that seems as arbitrary and subjective as that horrible moniker, "cherrypicker."

personally i despise the term.

there are also those that couldn't care any less if i get a nice buy from them. those that are comfortable with themselves and not insecure about their inventory/knowledge. they care if i am nice, trustworthy and share a good story/info from time to time. perhaps, sell them a few things but really they just seem content with sellong a few things.

tons more nuance/exeptions to list but i shalnt do it just now.

semi-rant over.

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asheland · July 20, 2015 2:50AM

originalisbest · July 20, 2015 4:06AM

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<< Even though dateless, a provable example of a genuine 1916 quarter is a desirable item. With it, a collector can proudly "fill that hole", and not have to endure an empty slot staring back at them, or have to pretend that the replica piece thrown in there is the real deal. >>

When I began collecting in the early 1960s, I would never dream of filling the 1916 SLQ hole with a replica.
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I filled it with a Barber instead.

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That is the cheaper method.

291fifth · July 20, 2015 4:26AM

<< 

<< The "key date" mania must be in full swing in order to get anything close to $2000 for a dateless 1916. I wonder how deep that market really is?

Is there any market for these on the bourse floor or does the market just exist on eBay? >>

What can I possibly say that hasn't already been said? LOL

291fifth, I'll try the soft approach. Even though dateless, a provable example of a genuine 1916 quarter is a desirable item. With it, a collector can proudly "fill that hole", and not have to endure an empty slot staring back at them, or have to pretend that the replica piece thrown in there is the real deal. Now for those who have no interest in anything that well-worn, still it's a worthwhile find as there are certainly people willing to purchase it. Any way you slice it, this type of 1916 is for me, a perfect collector coin for someone interested in completing a basic Standing Lib set in the old-fashioned way of coin board, Library of Coins album, or Capital Plastics set holders. Not so valuable that it's a problem to leave it raw. >>

And just how much are YOU willing to pay for a dateless 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter such as the one shown in this thread?

SLQ · July 20, 2015 5:20AM

<< 
When I began collecting in the early 1960s, I would never dream of filling the 1916 SLQ hole with a replica.
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I filled it with a Barber instead.

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When I was a kid in the 1960s, I had no problem filling that hole;

oih82w8 · July 20, 2015 5:30AM

<< When I was a kid in the 1960s, I had no problem filling that hole;

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I just looked at an Old Blue Whitman" SLQ Folder and that "rare" plug is no longer there...and there are probably fewer examples of 1916 SLQ now than then. Why did they remove the "rare" plug?

originalisbest · July 20, 2015 7:13AM

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<< The "key date" mania must be in full swing in order to get anything close to $2000 for a dateless 1916. I wonder how deep that market really is?

Is there any market for these on the bourse floor or does the market just exist on eBay? >>

What can I possibly say that hasn't already been said? LOL

291fifth, I'll try the soft approach. Even though dateless, a provable example of a genuine 1916 quarter is a desirable item. With it, a collector can proudly "fill that hole", and not have to endure an empty slot staring back at them, or have to pretend that the replica piece thrown in there is the real deal. Now for those who have no interest in anything that well-worn, still it's a worthwhile find as there are certainly people willing to purchase it. Any way you slice it, this type of 1916 is for me, a perfect collector coin for someone interested in completing a basic Standing Lib set in the old-fashioned way of coin board, Library of Coins album, or Capital Plastics set holders. Not so valuable that it's a problem to leave it raw. >>

And just how much are YOU willing to pay for a dateless 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter such as the one shown in this thread? >>

Why does that matter? Myself, I'd rather find one. After which I'd likely keep it, unless I needed the $ more. If I couldn't find one in the wild, and wished to pay for one, I think about $500 (and I'd only want a "perfect" dateless, no rim dings, no scratches, just an even, gray worn coin) -- but that's based on my mediocre budget for collecting. Since they seem to go for 1-2K, doesn't look like I'll get one unless I find one in the wild.

Gee, I sure hope that answered your question.

TwoSides2aCoin · July 20, 2015 2:29PM

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<< Ebay sucks.

So do cherry pickers. >>

No we pick….

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Thank you. I need clarification to distinguish , every once in a while

Did someone just score on eBay?

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