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Just bought the overton book.....
Dennis88
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Hello everyone,
I've just bought my first specialised book, the overton book with almost every early half dollar die variety. I still have to wait the bill for the shipping costs, because I live in the Netherlands I guess it is a little......High:-(
Because I will have to wait more than a month before the book arrives (I can only pay next month), can everyone who collects these coins show me some nice stuff and maybe a few pages from the overton book?? I'm really curious how it looks.
Let's see some cool stuff.....
Dennis
I've just bought my first specialised book, the overton book with almost every early half dollar die variety. I still have to wait the bill for the shipping costs, because I live in the Netherlands I guess it is a little......High:-(
Because I will have to wait more than a month before the book arrives (I can only pay next month), can everyone who collects these coins show me some nice stuff and maybe a few pages from the overton book?? I'm really curious how it looks.
Let's see some cool stuff.....
Dennis
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But you made a great investment. If you are interested in the early half dollars, you will have a great deal of
information at your fingertips and enjoyment aplenty
I find the edge lettering errors interesting. I have an 1833 in VF with "FIFTY CENTS ORLF A DOLLAR". The OR in "ORLF" can clearly be seen over "HA" sort of like an overdate or over mint mark. Cool stuff.
Considering their age, I find the series to still be a good bargain.
I'm sure I'll have my share of questions for other more experienced bust half collectors.
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2 Cam-Slams!
1 Russ POTD!
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I really can't wait till the book arrives. I hope I will survive the month..
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some of these can be kind of tricky!
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Serious, that was quite funny...
Dennis
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Still not convinced your coin is O.104.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
The distance between S7 and L is greater on yours, but it could be the angle of the photo.
O.104 has a sunken obverse die that is very weak in the center on the Overton plate and both of my coins. Also the 5/01 Superior finest known example MS64 (misattributed as 103) has weak centers with less hair detail than yours. Again yours could be a very early 104 before the die sunk, which would make it a 104' or 104 prime.
Also 104 is a sleeper rarity, few auction records, it was just listed as an R.5 in the latest JRCS census of preturb halves.
Hopefully I can find the book here in Holland.
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I did go get the coin out of the bank yesterday, will post new pics in the original thread, hijack over now
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That obverse doesn't match anything in Overton that I can see.
The reverse is definitely Rev B. The 1 in the date points much too low on the curl and the Y is no above the T so it can't be Obv 2. That only leaves Obv 3 but star 1 is too close to the curl, the points between stars 4 and 5 are much too far apart as are the points between stars 8&9 and 9 & 10. Finally the I is definitely lower than the L in Liberty and that isn't true on any of the obverses pictured in Overton.
Nysoto speculates on a very early die state of 104 but on early states the stars would be closer together not further apart. A very late state of 104 after polishing of the die might explain the missing lumps (polished away) and the wider apart stars, but not star 1 being closer to the curl or the I being low. This would be a good candidate for an overlay between baileys coin and an O-104.
The relationships of the star points to the milling look correct for the 104 (S1B, S7UE, S8UE, S13B) but I could just as easily call 7 and 8 as pointing between denticles. BUT star 1 looks like it is only 1 mm from curl, not 1 1/2. Al O. doesn't give a measurement, but it looks like star 7 is farther from the L than on his example, but not as far as on Obverse 1?. I do not see much when I look closely for the diagnostic lumps near the milling between stars 2 and 3:
we need Nysoto (or someone else) to post a pic of one of his O-104s
I dont see no danged lumps, well maybe tiny tiny ones if i use my imagination
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(I have also taken the liberty of including an 1857 Seated Liberty Half that I picked up the same day -- they complement each other very nicely)...
Stuart
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your capped bust pics seem to have turned into red x's, though.
BTW, for those interested in draped bust halves, it looks like that 1807 might really be a new die variety with a previously unknown obverse die, married to Reverse B, a discovery that we're tentitively calling O.115 pending an in person inspection and hopefully confirmation by the experts in these types of coins.
June 3rd, the first day of the Long Beach Expo, I guess we'll find out!
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New discovery!!!!!
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You should be able to get that book delivered to you by Global Air envelope for $9.00 It takes about 6 days. Global Express takes about 4 days and costs $35.00. It's quite a savings. for 1-3 days. The book will fit in an
Global envelope. If you still decide to pay the $35.00, make sure they don't rip you off and ship it Global Air instead of Express. JUMO. Steve