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1. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by originalisbest · January 31, 2003 3:03AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   I feel you're on target with a grade of VF, Russ. Draco, the verdigris you mention seeing on both Russ' piece and yours can exist on a piece whether it's been cleaned or not.

2. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by Russ · January 31, 2003 6:02AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   Karl, There's no corrosion or PVC on the coin. Russ, NCNE

3. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by Russ · January 31, 2003 2:51AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   LanLord, For the raw set I only need the 1872. Russ, NCNE

4. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by Russ · January 31, 2003 2:54AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   Draco, It hasn't been cleaned. Where are you getting that? Russ, NCNE

5. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   

   Comment by Russ · January 31, 2003 4:13AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   Every time I post one of these, I learn new stuff. That's the great thing about this forum! Thanks! Russ, NCNE

6. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by mbbiker · January 31, 2003 4:25AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   Russ that is a really nice 2 center. I would pay strong vf money for that one. These are really hard to come by untampered with and way undervalued right now. Nice find!!

7. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by dorkkarl · January 31, 2003 5:49AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   guess i'm on the conservative side. solid vf-detail, but too much corrosion, net f-12. russ, that coin may have active pvc. a bath may be called for. K S

8. Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   

   Discussion by Russ · January 31, 2003 2:10AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   You know, it's actually pretty hard to find the later date Two Cent pieces without problems. I'm grading this one a Very Fine. Am I close? Russ, NCNE

9. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

   

   Comment by Russ · January 31, 2003 3:02AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

   Draco, It is dirt. Real dirt that got there from being used way back when. The kind of dirt frequently found on real, un-screwed with old coins. I don't know why you'd get a body-bag for "cleaning" because a coin had some honest dirt on it. Nope, don't have any proofs in these, just circulation strikes. Russ, NCNE

10. Re: Finally tracked down an 1869 Two Center for my raw set, grade opinions?

    

    Comment by coppercoins · January 31, 2003 3:27AM · Home› U.S. Coin Forum

    I grade the coin at VF20. It has some weakness in the strike that cannot be attributed to wear, thus not affecting the grade - more than the simple presence or absence of detail must be considered to properly grade a coin. If you will notice, the leaves on the reverse show only VF wear. Secondarily there is no sign that I…