need help deciding
jayboog
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Trying to decide between either a 52 bowman mantle sgc 50 or a 49 bowman jackie robinson psa 6..which would you choose?
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WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Either way I don't think you can go wrong on either card.
Dave
History:
6/29/11 eBay $777.00
12/22/10 eBay $1,000.00
12/15/10 eBay $925.00
8/19/10 eBay $792.00
8/15/10 eBay $707.00
6/22/10 eBay $820.00
5/10/10 eBay $826.00
4/7/10 eBay $799.00
2/3/10 eBay $821.02
1/31/10 Greg Bussineau $990.00
1/21/10 eBay $800.00
1/8/10 eBay $850.00
1/3/10 eBay $810.00
VCP avg for 52 Bowman Mantle SGC 50 - Average Price: $652.62
History:
7/14/11 eBay $725.00
3/30/11 eBay $588.99
2/28/11 eBay $663.88
1/24/11 eBay $705.00
1/12/11 eBay $499.99
11/5/10 eBay $650.00
8/23/10 eBay $549.90
4/13/10 eBay $639.99
3/24/10 eBay $637.00
2/2/10 eBay $753.00
Thank you,
-Larry
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Have you thought of a 1950 Bowman Jackie? I think that card is sweet.
I like JRoby far more than Mantle ...........but Mantle will make the newbies heads turn more..... so if your into showing off, Mantle will be "the guy" for a few more years before them Bronx Baby Boomers die off completely.
<< <i>Both are nonrookie 2nd year cards, and both are highly collected overrated players. >>
Of course they are! Frank has spoken, He is the gospel, we should all burn our collections, Frank has it all figured out. Do you realize what kind of righteous A$$hole you come off like on these boards?
Yes, far better to buy obscure pre-war issues that 15 people even know exist of players that 150 people know existed. You collect what you want to collect, let others collect what they want. It's a hobby, not a contest to see who can get the oldest or most obscure cards. If someone wants to spend a grand on a Mantle card that there are 25,000 of in the world, why do you care? Don't be a di*k and turn your nose up at them.
<< <i>Both are nonrookie 2nd year cards, and both are highly collected overrated players.
Yes, far better to buy obscure pre-war issues that 15 people even know exist of players that 150 people know existed. You collect what you want to collect, let others collect what they want. It's a hobby, not a contest to see who can get the oldest or most obscure cards. If someone wants to spend a grand on a Mantle card that there are 25,000 of in the world, why do you care? Don't be a di*k and turn your nose up at them. >>
See, I thought it was a contest to accrue the largest quantity of worthless crap printed after 1993. And I thought I'd already won.
Thanks for ruining the dream, tool box.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
I have seen this hobbies good and bad sides for 30 years now, much of what is written on these boards is horse $#@% and I will put my 2 cents in too, just like you do, I NEVER personally attach another collector as you just did, but I also can laugh at a lame comment with the best of them. aloha
PS. I will never give false advise (IMO) or kiss a$$, feel free to jump past my comments as Im sure many of you do....
The Robinson is not his rookie, that was the point of the post, also IMO Mantle is the most overrated player ever and jRoby is not far behind... and I know its all about the $$ with some of you, so that was also in the post as well
FWIW... like it or not, I WILL ALWAYS try to knock that drunk hillbilly womanizing loser of a player name Mickey Mantle off his lofty Bronx influenced pedestal... its the least I can do for the far superior players from his Era, ie Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Williams, DiMaggio, Killebrew, etc. etc.
I cant say the same for Jackie Robinson, he was a class act on and off the field and a truly special person, even if his stats are below average for a HOFer (IMO)
<< <i>just saw the other 2 lemmings following Mr Miller... Its not worth the time typing a unique reply for you guys, the post above is for you too, enjoy!
FWIW... like it or not, I WILL ALWAYS try to knock that drunk hillbilly womanizing loser of a player name Mickey Mantle off his lofty Bronx influenced pedestal... its the least I can do for the far superior players from his Era, ie Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Williams, DiMaggio, Killebrew, etc. etc.
I cant say the same for Jackie Robinson, he was a class act on and off the field and a truly special person, even if his stats are below average for a HOFer (IMO) >>
Haha, so because the guy drank and ran around with women, he's a bad ball player? Wow you sound like one of those idiots that say HOF induction shouldn't be based on stats alone...Mickey Mantle is the greatest all-around player the game of baseball has ever seen... "(IMO)"
No, you just attack what they collect if it doesn't meet with your standards. I've never had a desire to have a Mantle card in my collection but I'm not gonna knock a card someone is excited about buying just because it's not a card I would want. People are spending $3k+ on 70s commons in PSA 10 or $30k+ on Jordan inserts which I think is an absurdly stupid way to spend their money, but it's their money and their prerogative and I'm not going to go out of my way to rain on their parade. I'm not going to jump in on their threads and tell them they're wasting their money, just like I'm not gonna tell somebody who buys a $1500 pair of binoculars to go bird-watching is wasting theirs. It's a hobby; it's fun. It's not always about the money or investment potential.
You are a superior collector to us all- we get it. Good job with that. When you're dead and your collection gets liquidated no one will care.
Lee
ps- as a side note, nobody in this thread suggested either of these cards was a rookie card, so I'm not sure why you're hung up on feeling the need to bring it to everybody's attention.
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<< <i>just saw the other 2 lemmings following Mr Miller... Its not worth the time typing a unique reply for you guys, the post above is for you too, enjoy!
FWIW... like it or not, I WILL ALWAYS try to knock that drunk hillbilly womanizing loser of a player name Mickey Mantle off his lofty Bronx influenced pedestal... its the least I can do for the far superior players from his Era, ie Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Williams, DiMaggio, Killebrew, etc. etc.
I cant say the same for Jackie Robinson, he was a class act on and off the field and a truly special person, even if his stats are below average for a HOFer (IMO) >>
Haha, so because the guy drank and ran around with women, he's a bad ball player? Wow you sound like one of those idiots that say HOF induction shouldn't be based on stats alone...Mickey Mantle is the greatest all-around player the game of baseball has ever seen... "(IMO)" >>
read a stat book sometime...
Mantle
a 3/4 hitter on the best team in baseball in his Era
only 4 times in 18 years drove in 100+ RBI (Jeff Kent had 8)
only once after his 27th birthday did he hit more than 23 doubles in a season (all around players run out their liners down the line or in the gap, and dont dog it to first)
only once after his 30th birthday did he hit over 23 HRs in a season...
only once had more than 173 hits in a season
a switch hitter has obvious advantages, but he was a sub .300 career hitter, who OFTEN whiffed (not putting ball in play, thus not driving in runners in scoring position as mentioned above with his lackluster RBI totals)
averaged 29 HRs per season
averaged 19 doubles per season (slowest guy in history of baseball, Bengie Molina, averaged more 2Bs per 162 games played)
averaged 8-1/2 stolen bases a season (roughly 1 per month)
uh OK "greatest all-around player"
<< <i>or the 53 topps mantle? >>
Personally I'd take the 53 Mantle over the 52 Bowman, and the Robinson.
But that's just me.
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
I agree.... but you too just ripped on them in your own way too, Mr Nuts.
Dont get me started on pseudo scarce high grade graded cards and the registry hype. I actually dislike them as much as MM
Like I said earlier, I have my opinions just like you do. I dont call people idiots on their post, I may say "stupid $$" or you could have bought "100 1948 Jackie Robinson Exhibit cards for the same $$ as that 1949 Leaf card" ....... its fact, sorry if it makes you feel bad for what you collect.
this is the first time someone has called me out (that I saw), I expected it sooner.... and Im sure it may be a 60 year old guy from NY with my "Bronx Baby Boomer" comment,..... thats fact as well... like it or not
BTW this guys thread is all screwed up now and off track...
my opinion, if a good deal, Id buy the 52B Mantle (53T even better) and flip it for a rare Ruth card (but some of you who pay attention to my posts knew that already, so I left the Ruth part out)
PS. thanks for the fun, more fun here than facebook for a guy with no TV, aloha
<< <i>this is the first time someone has called me out (that I saw), I expected it sooner.... and Im sure it may be a 60 year old guy from NY with my "Bronx Baby Boomer" comment,..... thats fact as well... like it or not >>
Frank, For the record, I am 37 years old, own one Mantle card (53 T PSA 7) live in North Carolina and really could care less about Mickey Mantle, nor do I have any interest in acquiring more of his cards. My post has more to do with your collective posts on the whole. Yes, you might not publicly attack people in their threads, but also essentially informing them that they could have owned 100 Jackie Robinson Exhibit cards for the money spent on a 49 Bowman card for instance, is unnecessary, especially to the degree that relentlessly do it. Go back and read your posts. Every single response you make on a thread is essentially a back-handed insult to the individual (O/P) as to why they are moron's for buying X card, versus buying Y card which happens to be much more rare. Why do you find it necessary to point this out to the boards? It gets old!
Why not allow an individual to enjoy their purchase, and be happy for the fact that they are so thrilled, they want to share it with there collecting brethren. Or better yet, why bash a guy/interject your negative opinion for asking a legitimate question on a subject that he has legitimate interest in.
Why do you feel it necessary to take them down a notch?
-Aloha
1948 LEAF 79 OR 1949 BOWMAN 50 JACKIE ROBINSON
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
Retired - Eddie Mathews Master Registry Set (96.36%) Rank 1
In regards to the question at hand, I would first look at the actual cards offered before making a decision. Grade doesn't always tell the full story and on a purchase like this I'd want to buy the card and not the holder.
If the goal is to get one card of each player early in their career I would look at a few others before making the decision. IMO '49 Leaf would make a better choice for Robinson (and while technically not his rookie, an argument could be made since it was his first mainstream nationally issued card) and '53 Topps for Mantle.
On the topic of Mantle as a player, I have no doubt if he had played for the White Sox or Senators he would not be discussed with the same level of reverance as his is.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
never saw either of them play, so i can't offer an opinion about who deserves to be recognized as a better hobby icon or value.
someday, a volcano will burp and Frank will get washed into the ocean for good......that will be a sad day, as we will no longer have him around to share knowledge which is not just like asking about the sequence of cards in a '75 Topps rack pack.
he actually knows stuff. the arrogance is just a sideshow.
personally, i got a little tentative about this thread when Lee & Boo started necking.
Kilauea is burping all the time, Im above it.....
I'll take note, and cut back on my unintended rips. but I usually only reply intensely to posts I have some clue on (counterfeits, IDing rare cards, Pitching, etc.).
I dont go around posting casually on every post kissing butt, like many of you do. I have never met a single collector on any of these boards in person (by design) except one who lives 10 miles from me and wanted me to ID his cards.
I have 2 worlds, this one stays on the internet and the closest I get to you is the postoffice...
why I feel the way I do, it wasnt overnight..... Ive always hated the Yankees, but used to be somewhat of a Mantle fan many years ago before I met him in person during my playing days (very unimpressed). but in last 10+ years have got sick and tired of all the "Mantle love" posts and seeing his name in 1 out of 3 post titles on the many message boards I visit, and especially seeing the word "Best", "Greatest" before/after his name...
I feel the exactly same about the letters "PSA" too (overrated), and so the called "Rookie cards" that really arent......
but sometimes there is actually a good post on this board and I do learn quite a lot from this board and the FCB board as well even though my focus is not around plastic slabs, razor sharp cards or new cards............ seeing all the "T206" posts irks me to a point as well. ......all for the same basic reason. overhype
...now off to my 2nd world, the beach, aloha