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Fastest Sub Ever! At least I didn't have to wait for the Pain!! Contest Winner!!

thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
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Afternoon,

Out of Hundreds of subs this is the first time I've ever had a second day Grades Pop. What a waste! I am so underwhelmed right now that I just have no comment!

Whoever called the Murray...Wish you hadn't been right!

Jeff: I don't know that I'd bother subbing the ones you have if this is how its going to turn out!!

I will sit down and figure out who won after I get over the shock here!! 4 N6's and an N8 out of 35 subbed, has to be one of the worst ratios of Unopened I've done and subbed ever. All cards Except the Murray looked exactly same size except for a little normal variance in the Fuzzy!!

Order #20545314 / Submission #717559
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country

No surprises here, these are from the two packs I bought from the Box break here from Probstein, actually these cards were worse looking to me than the grades they recieved!

1 1 19476370 MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 450 JOE TORRE Card US
2 1 19476371 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 476 WALTER JOHNSON ALL-TIME SHUTOUT LEADER Card US
3 1 19476372 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 TOPPS 521 BRAVES TEAM Card US
4 1 19476373 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 TOPPS 447 JOE HAGUE Card US
5 1 19476374 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 490 CLAUDE OSTEEN Card US


6 1 19476375 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 2 HOME RUN LEADERS G.FOSTER/J.RICE Card US
7 1 19476376 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 2 HOME RUN LEADERS G.FOSTER/J.RICE Card US
8 1 19476377 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 6 STRIKEOUT LEADERS P.NIEKRO/N.RYAN Card US
9 1 19476378 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 6 STRIKEOUT LEADERS P.NIEKRO/N.RYAN Card US
10 1 19476379 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 6 STRIKEOUT LEADERS P.NIEKRO/N.RYAN Card US
11 1 19476380 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 105 NOLAN RYAN Card US
12 1 19476381 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 241 NOLAN RYAN RECORD BREAKER Card US
13 1 19476382 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 225 MIKE SCHMIDT Card US
14 1 19476383 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 154 EDDIE MURRAY Card US
15 1 19476384 NEAR MINT 7 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 78 DAVE WINFIELD Card US
16 1 19476385 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 204 LOU BROCK Card US
17 1 19476386 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 60 DAVE PARKER Card US
18 1 19476387 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 113 BERT BLYLEVEN Card US
19 1 19476388 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 187 BUTCH HOBSON Card US
20 1 19476389 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 143 AL COWENS Card US
21 1 19476390 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 72 GARY ALEXANDER Card US
22 1 19476391 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 61 JIM BIBBY Card US
23 1 19476392 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 185 WILLIE McCOVEY Card US
24 1 19476393 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 215 GEORGE BRETT Card US
25 1 19476394 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 207 EXPOS TEAM Card US
26 1 19476395 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 197 TOM POQUETTE Card US
27 1 19476396 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 212 JASON THOMPSON Card US
28 1 19476397 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 126 JACKIE BROWN Card US
29 1 19476398 N8: MISCUT 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 39 DUANE KUIPER Card US
30 1 19476399 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 16 AMOS OTIS Card US
31 1 19476400 GEM MINT 10 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 14 TOM VERYZER Card US
32 1 19476401 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 44 ENOS CABELL Card US
33 1 19476402 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 201 ROLLIE FINGERS Card US
34 1 19476403 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 153 LARRY PARRISH Card US
35 1 19476404 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 61 JIM BIBBY Card US
36 1 19476405 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 14 TOM VERYZER Card US
37 1 19476406 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 98 JON MATLACK Card US
38 1 19476407 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 40 RON FAIRLY Card US
39 1 19476408 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 40 RON FAIRLY Card US
40 1 19476409 GEM MINT 10 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 21 ERIC SODERHOLM Card US
41 1 19476410 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 110 REGGIE JACKSON Card US

Neil


42 1 19476411 NEAR MINT 7 1971 TOPPS 60 TOMMY NOBIS Card US

This was from a Clearance lot of 30 SGC Mint 96's I picked up, that I cracked and then wittled down two different times to get to these, I thought 3-4 were 10's!

43 1 19476412 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 457 STEVE SCHUBERT Card US
44 1 19476413 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 368 CHECKLIST 265-396 Card US
45 1 19476414 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 485 JOHN HANNAH Card US
46 1 19476415 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 277 JAMES SCOTT Card US
47 1 19476416 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 271 VERN HOLLAND Card US
48 1 19476417 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 237 HASKEL STANBACK Card US
49 1 19476418 GEM MINT 10 1979 TOPPS 70 DREW PEARSON Card US
50 1 19476419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 TOPPS 53 MARK MILLER Card US
Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!

Comments

  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    That may solve my dilemma about whether to open one of my 73's from that thread..... Ouch!
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  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Man, bummer! Kind of irks me that the N6's are on HOFers. That's not right! The ratio really makes you question the subjectiveness of grading. Seems to me they are being overly harsh on the stars.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>Man, bummer! Kind of irks me that the N6's are on HOFers. That's not right! The ratio really makes you question the subjectiveness of grading. Seems to me they are being overly harsh on the stars. >>



    My thoughts exactly, plus the usual Head Scratchers as well, The Lou Brock that many had guessed as a 10 was to me head and shoulders the best Card of the Lot, I mean absolutely PERFECT. Just because I am so Frickin' pissed (And this plays into PSA's hands perfectly) I will be cracking it out just for principal and I bet it ends up in a 10 holder eventually....Remember these words down the road when I post it here as a 10!!!!!!!

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    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tough break on the Murray. Does it measure up? Well, you did get a fair number of 9s and a couple of 10s, including a 9 on the Ryan RB so there are some bright spots...still..I feel your pain. Sometimesa quicker turnaround yields a tougher result.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    General question about PSA - do you think that they review what was previously submitted by someone to see if there is history of submitting a particular card from a particular set? Granted, there's no way that they could prove it is the same card being resubmitted, but I wonder if they might make an unfair assumption.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, harsh! Here is a silver lining... at least they didn't call them EOT, and you'll be getting your sub fees refunded.

    Honestly, I'm not surprised that so many are MSRQ'd, because I noticed (by complete chance) that one of my Reggie RBs was seriously undersized. I want to thank you for posting your results, because now I'm going to take some serious time triple-checking the size of the cards I'm subbing. It's great to see you land so many 9s and some 10s.

    I'm a huge fan of PSA (obviously), but I don't care what they say, they definitely take the name on the card into consideration when grading it.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, I got more right than I thought! By my calculations, four of us are tied for the lead with 8 correct (me, bubblebathgirl, jimrad, Indy78). I say the tiebreaker should go in favor of bubblebathgirl, because he actually guessed the Murray wouldn't get slabbed (he called it EOT).

    These were my guesses (listed first) along with the real grades:

    Winfield 6 - 7
    Parker 8 - 8
    Brock 9 - 9
    Blyleven 8 - 9
    Murray 7 - N6
    Ryan 10-or-more strikeouts 8 - 9
    Ryan 8.5 - 8.5 image
    Schmidt 9 - 8
    Neikro/Ryan upper left 9 - 9
    Neikro/Ryan upper right 8 - 8
    Neikro/Ryan lower left 8 - 8
    Foster/Rice 9 - 9
    Foster/Rice 9 - 9
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Whoever called the Murray...Wish you hadn't been right! >>



    Neil, have your bankers call 4SC's lawyers. Then have your lawyers call their bankers and arrange a resub through 4SC.

    That puppy then comes back a PSA 9 at least.

    For further details, please contact Mr. Nightcrawler.

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    The VCP average total on your 1978 OPCs is $306. I'm bored tonight, can't you tell? image
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
    Evening,

    Jeff, thanks for doing the work for me, saved me a lot of time, so we have a 4 way tie for the lead. I'm not going to just give it to Bubblebath because EOT is totally different than MinSize to me. So here is the tie breaker. I have 3 more cards from the box break sitting ready to go into a sub down the line, one of them is a dup of the 34 1978's I just sent. First one of you 4 to guess which one, wins, name of Player.

    In this thread, one guess at a time!

    Neil

    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    2 day poppage?!?! You suck image
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>The VCP average total on your 1978 OPCs is $306. I'm bored tonight, can't you tell? image >>



    Yeah and even if I got that, would barely cover Sub fees, better think about that!

    So what do 10 commons VCP for?

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    They are all about the MinSize on O-Pee-Chee's nowadays!

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    My guess is you'll sub another "#207 EXPOS TEAM" card, only because you landed a 6 on that one, and I pulled about eight of these cards! lol



    << <i>So what do 10 commons VCP for? >>



    31 1 19476400 GEM MINT 10 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 14 TOM VERYZER Card US $10.00 (Pop 3 of 18 graded)
    40 1 19476409 GEM MINT 10 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 21 ERIC SODERHOLM Card US $15.00 (Pop 5 of 20 graded)

  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Of the commons that I pulled for my future sub, I made sure I only pulled the ones that would be potential Pop 1's, for that very reason.

    With 10s, you never know. Sold at the right timing, they could have high results.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
    Evening,

    No card had already been set aside due to Stellar condition and has no bearing on same card grade pulled with this sub! But nice try!

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    Blyleven
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  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭✭
    Percentage wise I was the winner. Hit the Murray with 100% accuracy, and it was the only card I guessed on. Wish I hadn't called it. Situations like this is why I've pretty much given up on the rips. Better to just take the $$ I would have spent and buy something already graded.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>Blyleven >>




    Ding, Ding, Ding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How he do dat ??!!!!!!

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Blyleven >>




    Ding, Ding, Ding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How he do dat ??!!!!!!

    Neil >>



    Nice! Big ups jimrad!
  • Indy78Indy78 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭
    Nice! Big ups jimrad!

    Definitely! Congrats!!
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    my opinion is that anytime you are submitting to get 10's , you will be disappointed. Doesn;t matter how good the cards are , you aren't going to get a run of 15 out of 30 cards being 10's on vintage stuff, period.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
    MOrning,

    Jimrad your PM is off!!

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>7 out of 13? Not too shabby IMO ... and I was pretty close with the others.

    Neil, how many packs did you pull all of these cards from ... about?


    >>



    Morning,

    These were pulled from one complete box of 36 packs.

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    So I went through and remeasured the 1978 OPC cards that I had set aside to sub... and I pulled out (8) of the (44) cards!! They were all at least 1/16" thinner L/R. Wow... so thanks for saving me at least $40!! image
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    you don't get charged for min siz.. well you do but you get a voucher.. probably worth subbing
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>you don't get charged for min siz.. well you do but you get a voucher.. probably worth subbing >>




    If PSA 10's are selling for a robust $15 a pop then there are probably only a few cards in this set that would ever be worth subbing.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>you don't get charged for min siz.. well you do but you get a voucher.. probably worth subbing >>



    That's true, I didn't think of it that way. Still, these cards are pretty obviously short, so I'll fill my "50 special" with eight other cards. Still subbing the borderline star cards.



    << <i>If PSA 10's are selling for a robust $15 a pop then there are probably only a few cards in this set that would ever be worth subbing. >>



    I'm only subbing the low or no pop commons in the first place. I'm being more conservative with these cards than I have ever been in the past. There are only about 10 commons in there, out of 36.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Neil, how are the backs of some of your 9s and 10s? Some of these cards that are centered have some really bad 80/20 backs. Just wondering how PSA treated the backs on these.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
    Morning,

    All of the backs should be at least 70/30 from my memory, since I was shooting for 10's on all but some of the Star cards, I pulled everything out that had worse back centering than that. Back centering didn't seem to be a big issue with my Box, as well as I think I had only one Blatant Miscut card in the whole box.

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
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