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Offer for a vintage Topps set

I'm considering making an offer on the following set from the Soloway collection:

http://www.psacard.com/PSASETREGISTRY/alltimeset.aspx?s=18807

Wondering what the concensus is on what a fair offer would be in the current market environment?


Dave

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  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭✭
    Have not gone through VCP yet, but SMR has the set as it stands at $38,169.

    $9750 of that is the PSA 9 Rose RC


    Dave
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    are you going through memory lane for this set?

    it does get tougher when all the grades are not the same. there are collectors that do not want to mix grades. you have have a $9000 rose card in 9 and several $10 commons in 8's.
  • Here's the link:
    1963 Topps Baseball Set

    I agree with bubblebathgirl on the pricing. If you take that approach, I think the offer would be accepted. Starting at 20% below VCP is more than fair in this economy. (Stay far away from SMR as others have noted many times.)

    This is a huge collection that just came to market, so they may want to get the ball rolling with a few sales.

    theczar's comments may help you as well. The mixed grades may leave out a few buyers.

    In the SMR article on Steve Soloway, he commented that he always looked for well centered cards and did not worry about the grade too much. If this is true, this could be a very nice set with some high-end cards for the given grade.

    Good luck. I like the 1963 set. It seems to be consistently popular.

    Kevin
  • 63 Set

    I would take some time, do the VCP research and make an educated offer based on that. The wild card is ML, and I find them to be pains in the ass to deal with and overpriced on straight BIN items.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Buying a complete set should yield a discount from whatever VCP has regarding single card sales.


    Good for you.


  • << <i>Buying a complete set should yield a discount from whatever VCP has regarding single card sales. >>



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  • << <i>Buying a complete set should yield a discount from whatever VCP has regarding single card sales. >>



    +1

    Ditto to that
    The Sky Pilot

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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Vintage Topps ??? lol
    Wow! really?..... that kind of $$$ for a common Topps 1963 set slabbed????

    IMO buy a raw 1963 set in EX+/NRMT and a vintage Porsche and a VW 23 window van for the same price as that set encased in gaudy bulky unnatural plastic slabs... unless you like to look at red flips with numbers and scanner bars.
    Its not like 1963 Topps cards are ever going to be rare or even scarce.... lol

    or buy a new cabin in Hawaii on 3 acres for less $$ than that set lol

    And whats the fun in buy a complete registered set... seems to beat the fun of building and upgrading (what I thought you all were addicted to), or maybe its the fact of having the best of something .......the brag factor ??? hmmm dont undrerstand the PSA thing and never will some pseudocollectors/investors just have too much $$ to spend I guess...

    PS. Vintage Topps ???
    Topps and vintage dont go together, not when the hobby is 150 years old image

    my slab rant for the day.... lol image

  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Almost all of the toughies in his 62 set are lower grade; I wouldn't get my hopes up about finding diamonds in the rough - if the 62 set is any indication, somebody gleaned out the tough, big $ commons already. If they did that, they may have looked for undergraded cards too.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭✭
    Current VCP (average) for the full set stands at $41,275. SMR is $38,170.

    So what's the fair price?

    NOTE TO Bosox1976 - This one is not picked like the 1962 set. A bunch of lower pop 8s are included.


    Dave
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    WOW! I had no idea that Steve was getting out of the hobby. About 4 years ago, as I was getting ready to consign my collection to Mastro (yeah yeah ... why the hell did I do that ... I wish I knew about this board then!), I spoke with Steve a few times and sold him quite a few cards to upgrade his '68 set as well as some low pop cards from the mid 60's. A real nice guy to deal with. Good luck bidding on that '63 set.

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