Do we have any resident Barbadian coin (Pineapple Penny) experts here?
lloydchristmas
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After taking a long vacation from coins (and lurking the boards), I am back in full force. I recently acquired this piece -
I know that the Barbadian coins actually issued for circulation are scarce in general, but after browsing this Barbados Coppers site, I've found that mine is the 5.1-H.1 variety, which is described as very rare. I've searched auction records from Heritage and Teletrade and couldn't find one that's come across the auction block.
What I'd like to know now is how many of this variety are possibly known? Can a value even be established? Thank-you all for your time.
I know that the Barbadian coins actually issued for circulation are scarce in general, but after browsing this Barbados Coppers site, I've found that mine is the 5.1-H.1 variety, which is described as very rare. I've searched auction records from Heritage and Teletrade and couldn't find one that's come across the auction block.
What I'd like to know now is how many of this variety are possibly known? Can a value even be established? Thank-you all for your time.
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I'm no expert, but I have the another variety of that piece. I believe, but can't prove finest known. NGC has not listed on the POP report last time I checked. Last one I saw for sale, last year, and not an auction sale was $1600 for two grades lower,
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What's goin' on to the left of the pineapple, there? Doesn't look like a clashmark. Some kind of strikethrough? Planchet flaw?
There's something goin' on in front of the forehead, too. Interesting.
<< <i>Nice coin, though of course I have zero specialist knowledge about these.
What's goin' on to the left of the pineapple, there? Doesn't look like a clashmark. Some kind of strikethrough? Planchet flaw?
There's something goin' on in front of the forehead, too. Interesting. >>
In front of the native's forehead is a die chip and to the left of the pineapple is a heavy die break.
Edited to add - The pictures do make the die chip and break appear a bit odd...or perhaps it's due to some of the lapping?
<< <i>What's the grade on that puppy? >>
I need you to take a guess first!
Guess I'll say 63 BN, though 64 BN wouldn't surprise me.
<< <i>Ugh. I gotta go out on a limb, huh?
Guess I'll say 63 BN, though 64 BN wouldn't surprise me. >>
I thought it was UNC when I initially saw it, but it's a 55 BN.
It's a helluva nice slider, that's fer sure.
<< <i>These are all really nice examples, you guys are truly making me jealous I don't have one!
A lot of examples are still reasonably priced if you are in the market for one.
That one like yours sold for $1600 last year in MS 63
and here is one on Ebay a bit rougher
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<< <i>lloyd
That one like yours sold for $1600 last year in MS 63
and here is one on Ebay a bit rougher
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Thank-you for that bit of info. Was it through eBay or one of the auction houses?
Ryan
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<< <i>It was in a Coin World B@M ad , can't remember the name but will make an effort to find out when my next issue gets here. He always runs a 1/4 page Black and White ad with one coin as the feature, Classic Coins or Collectors Den, something like that. A posh looking add
Thank-you again, Boz
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<< <i>lloyd, the dealer was this one .
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Ahh, thanks a bunch! I was able to search their archives and find the examples they've had.
<< <i>The "I Serve" slogan is very interesting. It has a very different feel from say "Liberty." >>
I think the "I Serve" motto is referring to the governing party serving the people, which makes me feel better than "Liberty," which merely refers to one government breaking away from another.
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<< <i>The "I Serve" slogan is very interesting. It has a very different feel from say "Liberty." >>
I think the "I Serve" motto is referring to the governing party serving the people, which makes me feel better than "Liberty," which merely refers to one government breaking away from another. >>
A lot of experts/collectors believe the head on the obverse represents a slave (they worked on the island's sugar plantations at the time), which explains why the motto "I Serve" is present.
<< <i>A lot of experts/collectors believe the head on the obverse represents a slave >>
That might be a valid theory were it not for the crown he is wearing.
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<< <i>A lot of experts/collectors believe the head on the obverse represents a slave >>
That might be a valid theory were it not for the crown he is wearing. >>
I found some more info on the issue from here - Bolton Museums
Their comment on the crown was this -
"The crown and plumes are harder to explain. The plumes are those usually associated with the Prince of Wales, and his motto is “I serve”. This double-entendre therefore suggests the design is intended to be humorous or satirical. "