Here's how you deal with ebay non-paying bidders
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+1 for a seller.
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Glim-Dropper:
The glim-dropper scam requires several accomplices, one of whom must be a one-eyed man. One grifter goes into a store and pretends he has lost his glass eye. Everyone looks around, but the eye cannot be found. He declares that he will pay a thousand-dollar reward for the return of his eye, leaving contact information. The next day, an accomplice enters the store and pretends to find the eye. The storekeeper (the intended griftee), thinking of the reward, offers to take it and return it to its owner. The finder insists he will return it himself, and demands the owner’s address. Thinking he will lose all chance of the reward, the storekeeper offers a hundred dollars for the eye. The finder bargains him up to $250, and departs. The one-eyed man, of course, can not be found and does not return. (Described in A Cool Million, or, The Dismantling of Lemuel Pitkin (1934) by Nathanael West). Variants of this con have been used in movies such as The Traveller (1997), Shade (2003), and Zombieland (2009)....
I love the part about her reporting him to the fire department. LOL (and yes, I was actually laughing for you naysayers).
Thanks for the grin.
<< <i>+1 for a seller.
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wiki.......
Glim-Dropper:
The glim-dropper scam requires several accomplices, one of whom must be a one-eyed man. One grifter goes into a store and pretends he has lost his glass eye. Everyone looks around, but the eye cannot be found. He declares that he will pay a thousand-dollar reward for the return of his eye, leaving contact information. The next day, an accomplice enters the store and pretends to find the eye. The storekeeper (the intended griftee), thinking of the reward, offers to take it and return it to its owner. The finder insists he will return it himself, and demands the owner’s address. Thinking he will lose all chance of the reward, the storekeeper offers a hundred dollars for the eye. The finder bargains him up to $250, and departs. The one-eyed man, of course, can not be found and does not return. (Described in A Cool Million, or, The Dismantling of Lemuel Pitkin (1934) by Nathanael West). Variants of this con have been used in movies such as The Traveller (1997), Shade (2003), and Zombieland (2009).... >>
Glad I read that whole blurb, because I was about to say "Hey, two broads did that in Zombieland!"
He essentially played on her greed just so that he can be made whole. It was not to take advantage of the situation or anything.
I am sure he could have sued in small claims court and won, but this method worked more efficiently.
He used a simple ruse to get his money back, nothing more. That extra $20 was also not over the top because he stated in his auction that the tickets needed to be picked up, so if he did the delivery, $20 is appropriate. The police use ruses all the time to get information for the sake of justice. The guy did not do anything different.
Yes, the guy lied, but it was not for personal gain or to trick her out of money, it was to enforce the contract she entered in (granted she may have thought ebay was not like a used car dealership, but igorance rarely flies in court, it was her duty to know). He was also kind enough not to endanger the woman by making her go to the event. Imagine if he kept the ruse going and made her drive to the event and got caught in a car accident? What then? Once he got the money, the ruse must stop or else another can of worms can open up.
If one takes the utilitarian definition of ethics, the guy did nothing unethical. Did he do something illegal with his ruse? I know the police use it, but perhaps citizens are not protected by law to do the same? Sometimes law and moral code conflict. I think law enforcement would be wasting its time to go after this guy--there are better use of resources out there. For practical purposes, I don't think the law needs to get involved in this.
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<< <i>I find the story hard to believe because the deadbeat bidder lady didn't make "payback" send a deposit or pay in full via PayPal in order to have them committed to showing up at the show. Shelling out $620 on a promise from a stranger to meet her at the show requires too much trust and faith in humanity and she ain't got it or giving it away. She didn't need to pay to have physical possession of the tickets before getting payback to send some money for them. >>
You're wrong - everything posted on reddit is 100% true.
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No way to link the two accounts together either and since the alias was under the name of Boba Fett she wouldn't really get too far with that one.
I am sure this has happen many times before, guy was an idiot though to link himself to her as the "buyer" since the crazy could later on make his life hell.
Shane
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<< <i>May not be true, but gets you thinking, what would I do if it happened to me? >>
It's why I would never sell a time-senstive item on EBay
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<< <i>I find the story hard to believe because the deadbeat bidder lady didn't make "payback" send a deposit or pay in full via PayPal in order to have them committed to showing up at the show. Shelling out $620 on a promise from a stranger to meet her at the show requires too much trust and faith in humanity and she ain't got it or giving it away. She didn't need to pay to have physical possession of the tickets before getting payback to send some money for them. >>
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I have no clue as to whether the instant story is true. The
scam is as old as the hills, and it could have easily been
played on the ticket reneger.
BUT, I do KNOW, that it is MUCH easier to scam a scammer
than it is to cheat an honest person.
When a grifter finds somebody looking for "something for nothing"
OR "easy money on a guaranteed sure thing," the con will have
all of the mark's money really FAST.
Desperate folks are often thought to be the "easiest" marks,
but corrupt folks are MUCH easier.
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Update on "Search Engine Arbitrage" SCAM:
We have all seen the ads for "making money on google." MOST
of these ads rely on enlisting folks into a "subscription program"
that requires the marks to agree to violate google's TOS.
If the folks were not dishonest and willing to break the rules to
make money, they would not be such easy pickings.
MOST EVERY SCAM relies on an element of larceny or greed
being present in the mark. Those kinda folks are sooooooooo
easy to find. Honest folks are much tougher to set-up for any
scam.
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