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Mickey71
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The coach and general manager will be fired. The coach in the next couple of weeks and the GM at the end of the season. "GUARANTEED"
Enough giving the GM a break. He brought in this poisonous concoction of players. Figgins is proving to not be a good teammate at all who has not done anything all season. Milton Bradley...well we won't even go there. Griffey...oh my God. Unless the new 1st baseman is a star the whole Cliff Lee thing was a waste.
I'm actually wondering what ownership is waiting for. They've completely lost this group of junky players.
One more thing...just a guess...Figgins is the one who talked about Griffey sleeping in the clubhouse.
Enough giving the GM a break. He brought in this poisonous concoction of players. Figgins is proving to not be a good teammate at all who has not done anything all season. Milton Bradley...well we won't even go there. Griffey...oh my God. Unless the new 1st baseman is a star the whole Cliff Lee thing was a waste.
I'm actually wondering what ownership is waiting for. They've completely lost this group of junky players.
One more thing...just a guess...Figgins is the one who talked about Griffey sleeping in the clubhouse.
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How was it a waste? The M's acquired an ace who was earning way under market value salary for what will likely turn out to be a triad of failed mid-tier prospects.
The coach and general manager will be fired. The coach in the next couple of weeks and the GM at the end of the season. "GUARANTEED"
Zduriencik isn't going to be clipped. Wakamatsu is another argument. I could see that happening. fwiw, from recent reports, it seems like many of the M's vets aren't happy with the way Wakamatsu treated Jr Griffey....so perhaps they believe Wakamatsu was the guy who leaked the story to the pen and mic club. Anyway, I can't actually tell if you're a M's fan or not, but the Lee deal is already a win simply because the M's gave up very little for him in the first place. Aumont is either going to be an injury washout, a failed starter, or a decent closer. This is Amaro's return for Cliff Lee so far this year.
Aumont
1-6, 7.43 ERA, 1.87 WHIP in 14 starts at AA Reading
Juan Ramirez
out all season until recently where he made his first start of the season and was promptly shelled in an extended spring training game. (0-1 8.31 ERA, 2.08 WHIP)
Tyson Gillies
.229/.274/.324, 2 HRs, 2 SBs at AA Reading in 105 games.
so Zduriencik turned that into two former Ranger 1st round picks in Justin Smoak and Blake Beaven, and a couple other spare parts while ridding himself of Bavasi's garbage.
Smoak granted has struggled as expected for a rookie, but in AAA this season hit
.300/.470/.540/.1010. I'm not an M's fan, but I'll take a struggling Smoak over the utility infielder type production they were getting from Kotchman/Sweeney for a guy with a Teixeira or Berkman type ceiling if everything goes right. I doubt he'll ever hit 40 HRs in Safeco, but perhaps he can put up Berkman 30 HR type numbers.
Beaven
10-5, 2.78 ERA, 1.01 WHIP in 19 starts at AA.
looks pretty worthwhile to me. It's not Zduriencik's fault he inherited a team with a crap farm system and a roster with no offense or bullpen. That's on the incompetence that was the Bill Bavasi era. The Figgins signing may turn out to be a bust, but going into the season, he was the best available 2B. A lot of M's fans wanted Jason Bay. How's that worked out for the Mets?
Better than Figgins has worked out for the M's in any case..
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not really.
Bay - 1.2 WAR
Figgins - 0.1 WAR
the only saving grace for the Mets is that Bay's contract is back-loaded so he's only making $6.5M this season. Otherwise he'd be a bigger bust. Check back next year when he's making $16M and posting one win above a replacement level player.
Bay: BA .262, OBP .350, HRs 6, RBI 47, SLG% .407, OPS 104, SB 10, CS 0, GIDP 7
I'll take Bay over Chone Mendoza, thanks.
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I'm not saying that Bay is having a terrific season by any stretch, and if you compare the salaries of each player, you may ultimately be right in the long run, but Figgins who has no power at all, is not even getting on base enough for a leadoff batter and his 12 GIDP and 6 CS in 31 attempts is certainly below average for a player of his type.
Edit: I think it's too early to say that bay is a bust at this stage...I will give him a full season to adjust to playing in NY, and hopefully he will get better, or he will join Bobby Bonilla on the long list of free agent busts signed by the Mets..
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them myself and know it sucks right now. We can't have a revolving door of managers again, i.e. Melvin, Hargrove and McLaren. I hate every time someone new comes in one player doesn't get
along with this skipper or another player hates this manager. How about going out and perform on the field? I put this squarely on the players, they started out slow and could'nt get out of the
hole. Dump the bad eggs (players) and give Wakamatsu at least one more year. The youngsters are very promising and they played well against the Sox this weekend. Small victories.
Dave
So far so good --- they just turned their first triple play since 1995.
Dave
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