1933 Goudey Ruth 144 - Trying again - what do you think??

dzolot · July 7, 2010 9:48AM

Thank you in advance for any insight you can provide. what do you think about this ruth, 33 Ruth

Almost looks too good to be true for a PSA 4, so want to get people's opinion before i bid (i.e reputable seller, possible fake / scam, condition for the grade, etc.).

Thanks again for any info you can provide...

Tedw9 · July 7, 2010 9:52AM

It looks like a nice card from the front, but if I was gonna drop that kind of coin on a card, I would want to see a scan of the back also.

CarsonPalmer · July 7, 2010 10:03AM

I would also ask for a scan of the back! It's a nice card tho! Don't know anything about the seller..

msassin · July 7, 2010 10:26AM

Almost have to think the card has a wrinkle somewhere. Card seems a little too nice for a '4'

SDSportsFan · July 7, 2010 12:03PM

The seller added a back scan to the listing. The card looks good to me. It was graded before the half-grades were instituted. If it were to be resubmitted, I'd wager a bet that it gets a half-point bump.

Steve

Pigs · July 7, 2010 12:22PM

Looks like 23 bidders think it's a legit card. That's a nice looking 4 with great centering. Good luck

divecchia · July 7, 2010 2:50PM

That's a great looking 4 and I agree it has a good chance at a bump.

Donato

CollectorAtWork · July 7, 2010 6:41PM

BTW, how can you tell if the slab is pre .5 or post .5? I assume it's because the cert # begins w/ a 0. Do you know at approx which cert #'s the crossover begins?

mexpo75 · July 7, 2010 9:36PM

The number grade is on separate line on newer grades

gameusedhoop · July 7, 2010 9:42PM

Looks good, has other similar grades and era cards in other auctions. Only thing that would worry me a little bit is that his account sat dormant on ebay since March '09. You might want to "ask the seller a question" and ask if he has another account. If so, is there some reason he has re-activated this account. Are there non-delivery complaints against another account? Or something that may worry you.

thedutymon · July 7, 2010 10:47PM

Morning,
If its the same carleniv, this guy had Registry sets, inculing some top dollar Non Sport.

Neil

Griffins · July 7, 2010 10:56PM

<< Morning,
If its the same carleniv, this guy had Registry sets, inculing some top dollar Non Sport.

Neil >>

yup, that is Bernie C. He used to post a lot on this board about 6-7 years ago. Really good guy, and he most certainly knows his cards. If you have any questions send him a note, I"m sure he can allay any reservations you might have.
At one time he had a very very high grade '40 Playball set, and a nice T3 set.

gameusedhoop · July 7, 2010 10:57PM

Those two recommendations would be good enough for me!

Griffins · July 7, 2010 11:09PM

<< Looks good, has other similar grades and era cards in other auctions. Only thing that would worry me a little bit is that his account sat dormant on ebay since March '09. You might want to "ask the seller a question" and ask if he has another account. If so, is there some reason he has re-activated this account. Are there non-delivery complaints against another account? Or something that may worry you. >>

He's been out of colecting for a few years, although I think he's still working on a '80 Topps graded set. I know he went back to school and it is a pretty intensive program, so I wouldn't read anything into a dormant account other than the fact that he actually has a life!

gameusedhoop · July 7, 2010 11:15PM

<< He's been out of colecting for a few years, although I think he's still working on a '80 Topps graded set. I know he went back to school and it is a pretty intensive program, so I wouldn't read anything into a dormant account other than the fact that he actually has a life! >>

Nice to hear. I only brought it up as it may have been a hi-jacked account. Glad some of the good guys could vouch for the seller. Good luck with your bid. Go get your Babe.

KbKards · July 8, 2010 1:40AM

Almost looks too good to be true for a PSA 4, so want to get people's opinion before i bid (i.e reputable seller, possible fake / scam, condition for the grade, etc.).

Thanks again for any info you can provide...

Great seller, great card, and the only other info I can provide is that you just greatly increased the number of potential bidders for the card who wouldn't have otherwise seen this buying opportunity if you hadn't posted your question here.

thedutymon · July 8, 2010 2:19AM

<< Almost looks too good to be true for a PSA 4, so want to get people's opinion before i bid (i.e reputable seller, possible fake / scam, condition for the grade, etc.).

Thanks again for any info you can provide...

Great seller, great card, and the only other info I can provide is that you just greatly increased the number of potential bidders for the card who wouldn't have otherwise seen this buying opportunity if you hadn't posted your question here. >>

Shoots self in Foot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeehah

Neil

fkw · July 8, 2010 3:44AM

What is the question?

The R319 Ruth #144 looks like a PSA-4 to me.

And with that many bidders already on a vintage card (most use snipes), and "outing it" before it ended you will be paying PSA-4+ prices IMO.

I may throw a bid now, but I try to stay away from the #144 unless its a steal, it is 2X more common than any other card in the set (DPed).

WinPitcher · July 8, 2010 5:03AM

Better to ask a question here and add potential bidders than get ripped off for 1000.00+

Because had he kept the auction to himself, won it, paid and received the card and then came here to ask if it

was legit, some of the very same folks that said he outed the auction would say that he should have come here first!

It's not like the card was listed in the screws and bolts section.

Steve

dzolot · July 8, 2010 5:10AM

Waw!! you guys are really amazing. thank you so much for all the great info. I agree with winpitcher (Steve) -- better off paying a little higher price and know i'm getting a ligit card, than save a few dollars and get ripped for the big $$.

By the way, I will be bidding often and aggressively, so all other should stay away!!! : ) there you go, that should help! haha...

CollectorAtWork · July 8, 2010 6:02AM

Here are the total PSA pop #'s for the Ruth in the 33 Goudey set, btw:

53: 589
144: 831
149: 635
181: 732

So while the 144 is definitely the most common Ruth, it is not 2X the other ones.

I personally like the 53 or 181 Ruth's the best, and the Sport Kings Ruth even better. That one is probably my favorite.

PlayBall · July 8, 2010 7:38AM

Hello, I'm the seller of the card.

Thanks Anthony and Neil for the kind words. My E-bay activity did stall for awhile. Recently jumped back in with 33 Goudey and T9 Turkey Reds, and quickly realized one would have to go. Bought this card on E-Bay about a year ago from q-commerce. Never sent it in for review. Actually, I've never tried that service with any card. No creases or wrinkles.

Thanks everyone for the free publicity. Let me know if any of you have more questions.

Bernie

P.S. I wondered why I had an inbox full of questions on this card.

digicat · July 8, 2010 7:45AM

<< So while the 144 is definitely the most common Ruth, it is not 2X the other ones. >>

Pop reports are not print runs.

1933 Goudey Ruth 144 - Trying again - what do you think??

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