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Wow! Can't Believe the Centering on this '68 PSA 10

Graded in the last week to boot. I need to get my submission in asap while the graders are feeling generous.

1968 PSA 10 Denny McClain

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  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    The centering looks fine
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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The centering looks fine >>



    Top to bottom? I get 8's at best with that centering.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    You must be talking about the T/B centering?

    IMO the top border should equal the left and right borders. What's left at the bottom is irrelevant to me. But, that just what my eye prefers.
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  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Fine?

    It looks perfect.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Top to bottom? I get 8's at best with that centering. >>




    Me too. (maybe a 9)

    It is really noticeable on the reverse.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You must be talking about the T/B centering?

    IMO the top border should equal the left and right borders. What's left at the bottom is irrelevant to me. But, that just what my eye prefers. >>



    Agreed, the t/b centering may be 40/60 but the top border equals the left and right which means it has better eye appeal than a 50/50 centered card IMO the grade is accurate.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Front:
    L/R = 53/47
    T/B = 46/54

    Back
    T/B = 33/66


    GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint.

    A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.
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  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    I give it a 9.6 but I couldn't dance to it.
  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DENNY MCLAIN needs to be on this website!

    Especially with them glasses!!! image
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭
    Beauty is always within the eye of the beholder (or, as has been said here many times before, buy the card, not the holder) and with this beholder, the card looks great. Mileage may differ with others.

    Matt
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Ok, fair enough. Let's put it this way. You are at a card shop and see this card raw.

    The dealer/owner/employee say's "yeah it's a real beauty should 10 if sent off to PSA"

    You pick it up and look at the back, you see ink missing on BOTH top corners and crappy t/b centering.

    Because let's face it, it does have crappy T/b centering on the back regardless of the 'PSA' standard.

    You say how much? He say's 213.00 You buying? or do you say to yourself "guy is nutz'!


    Cmon, we all have different standards on what constitutes a 10. PSA say's it is, I say it ain't and mine counts.

    (To me anyway)


    Steve
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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Front:
    L/R = 53/47
    T/B = 46/54

    Back
    T/B = 33/66


    GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint.

    A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse. >>



    Did you measure T/B from at the team bubble or at his last name? His name is where it appears to be most off centered. Maybe it's just an optical illusion but that card looks O/C to me. Like others have said, visual appeal is in the eye of the beholder.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    I was measuring from the bubble.

    If you measure from the letters, it's 43/57, still within the range for a PSA 10.
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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
    Denny was a little off centered after 1969. Somebody should crack it out and get the 7.5 it desrves.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Denny was a little off centered after 1969. Somebody should crack it out and get the 7.5 it desrves. >>

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Generally I add 2 points (1 at the least) whenever Mickey claims a card is overgraded.

    So maybe the card is a market acceptable 10.

    I wouldn't pay a premium over a 9 for it though.

    I know the card is an in demand one being from the 68 set and all.

    The Tigers won it and it is the 31 win card to many.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    I've seen worse looking 10's based on T/B and L/R than this card......
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Looks centered to me,....... its also a $5 card. And this common card found in thousands of raw complete sets.

    One day these clowns will realize when the registry folds because of lack of interest or a PSA meltdown, they will loose 97% of their investment $$.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think the centering is OK - not the best - but falls within the guidelines for a 10.

    Would I pay a premium for this card? No. 8s are just fine with me.
    Mike
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One day these clowns will realize when the registry folds because of lack of interest or a PSA meltdown, they will loose 97% of their investment $$. >>




    What reason do you have to suggest interest in the registry will decline? Or that PSA will experience a "meltdown"? If grading companies are eventually pared down to one or two as some here have suggested, I'd put my money on PSA to survive.

    And even if the registry folds as you suggest, collections listed on the registry will be relatively unaffected in terms of value. Cert numbers on the registry represent actual cards in actual holders in actual collections. Some of those cards are condition rarities, whether the registry exists or not. In the absence of a registry, they'll still be desired by other collectors of that same issue.


  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
    Steve,
    Cmon. I'm not that tough. Chaz is tougher than I am, and I think all of Levi's cards are high end for the grade--you know that.image

    Mickey71
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vintage PSA 10's look a lot better in hand, than on any scan on ebay - that's what a collector is buying.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    10.5
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>One day these clowns will realize when the registry folds because of lack of interest or a PSA meltdown, they will loose 97% of their investment $$. >>




    What reason do you have to suggest interest in the registry will decline? Or that PSA will experience a "meltdown"? If grading companies are eventually pared down to one or two as some here have suggested, I'd put my money on PSA to survive.

    And even if the registry folds as you suggest, collections listed on the registry will be relatively unaffected in terms of value. Cert numbers on the registry represent actual cards in actual holders in actual collections. Some of those cards are condition rarities, whether the registry exists or not. In the absence of a registry, they'll still be desired by other collectors of that same issue. >>



    At one time (2003 or so) I thought BGS was in the best position of the 3 major grading companies. The strong brand name, subgrades, decent website, and general better customer service would win out. Also PSA was having a few issues at the time with lawsuits and the WIWAG scandal.

    But now I think SGC and PSA are in best position to survive. Ever since Dr. Beckett sold out to the investment group, Beckett has been on the decline.
    Mike
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I guess the reverse of a card is more important to only a few of us here.


    IMO the reverse is as important as the front of a card.


    The reverse on that card (IMO) disqualifies it as a gem card.


    Steve
    Good for you.
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