1954 NGC MS64 Wild Rainbow Toned Jefferson Nickel sold tonight on eBay!!

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Goldbully
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Would you have paid $260?????????
Cool looking coin, but a bit pricey IMHO.
Is that also not a weak strike!!

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  • Bochiman
    Bochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Would I? No.
    Would some folks? Yes. Obviously since one did image

    I knew, even before hitting the link, that it was one of 2 certain sellers for the coin (and, I was right). That selelr has a strong following of auction watchers. That helps as well.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • nankraut
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    Looks like a doctored coin to me. Worth about 5 cents, imho.image
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  • Sonorandesertrat
    Sonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The reverse has an interesting 'Battle Creek' look.
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  • PCcoins
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    That's legit toning IMO. A very rare type toning that is very hard to find, the grade had hardly nothing to do with the final selling price.

    I would love to own it, but too rich for my blood.
    "It is what it is."
  • mumu
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    The glitter effect photoshopped in makes the seller an instant giveaway.
  • mirabela
    mirabela Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I love raiding old unc album sets for coins like that ... they do turn up ... but I like it when I can get get them for single-digit prices. That's a lot of money for that.
    mirabela
  • rmpsrpms
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    The strike is not so bad, it's just that the dies are very worn. What was wrong in 1954 that so many worn dies were used? Lincolns are hard to find in early die state and well-struck, full red, EDS 1954Ps are very rare. Is it the same way for nickels? How about others?

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  • SoCalBigMark
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    Mister D ?
  • Lehigh96
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    I love rainbow toned Jefferson Nickels but I draw the line at MS65. It is curious that the coin does not have a star designation.
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  • BigDowgie
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    I'm not a Jefferson toner kind of guy, so I would vote no way to this one.

    For those that are toners, I am curious about how you weigh toning against the quality of the coin. This coin is very late die state, but with great toning. Does the overall quality of the coin play into your decision to purchase coins at premium prices, like this one?

    Dowgie
  • golfer72
    golfer72 Posts: 3,588
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    l love toned coins but they need to have a good strike. If that date does not come fully struck so be it.
  • FullStepJeffs
    FullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
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    Coins like this have gone for insane money... but I'm sure there are those of you out there who would think the prices I pay for some Jefferson Nickels is insane as well, so it's a wash.

    I would not pay that price for the coin... even as a Jefferson. There is a line of insanity even I won't cross.

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  • coinguy1
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    << <i>Looks like a doctored coin to me. Worth about 5 cents, imho.image >>

    It looks original and quite striking to me.
  • braddick
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    I purchased this coin.
    I enjoy interesting and (for me) eye appealing coins. Actually, sometimes the coin doesn't even need to be attractive for me to like it.
    It may very well be a problem free worn out Ike dollar or this Jefferson nickel.

    I never expect others to agree with my collecting methodology, but it's worked for me over the last 30 years of collecting.
  • BigDowgie
    BigDowgie Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    braddick,

    I respect your methodology. It's not about what I like, it's all about you like! That works for me.

    Thanks
    Mike
  • PCcoins
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    NGC's star designation is quite confusing? image
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  • golfer72
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    "NGC's star designation is quite confusing? ' And meaningless too!
  • rainbowroosie
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    "I never expect others to agree with my collecting methodology, but it's worked for me over the last 30 years of collecting."



    agree100%image
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  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The coin looks fine to me. Had I seen it, I would have paid $260 for it - but only because it is my birth year and I am trying to put a nice set of toners together.

    Nice snag Braddick!

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  • leothelyon
    leothelyon Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dang that Pat! Looks like I'll need to rethink my entire outlook on collecting these coins. image

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    NOT!

    But like he said, "to each his own!"


    Leo image

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  • PCcoins
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    So what's this one worth? pcgs ms65 image Extremely vibrant in hand

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  • leothelyon
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    << <i>So what's this one worth? pcgs ms65 image Extremely vibrant in hand >>





    Do I hear $280?


    Leo image

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  • Coppercolor
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    << <i>So what's this one worth? pcgs ms65 image Extremely vibrant in hand

    image >>



    Great coin John, it was a pleasure handling it and that thing is way more electric than your photos show.

    Braddick, I love that nickel. And I"m happy to keep you company as a guy buried in high pop, colorful coins that I"ve paiway too much for, Gladly! You too Rainbowroosie.
    Jeff
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  • JJM
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    It is curious that the coin does not have a star designation.

    thats what I was thinking as well
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  • leothelyon
    leothelyon Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    When buying wildly toned coins, does anyone take into consideration that the toning process may still be active?
    There's a lot more to this but I'll refrain from writing a 1 page thesis about it. image


    Leo

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  • Bochiman
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    << <i>There's a lot more to this but I'll refrain from writing a 1 page thesis about it. image


    Leo >>




    We appreciate your restrain image

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  • Russ
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    << <i>It is curious that the coin does not have a star designation.

    thats what I was thinking as well >>



    Probably because the color is on the reverse. NGC tends to reserve the designation for coins with obverse toning.

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  • Lehigh96
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    << <i>

    << <i>It is curious that the coin does not have a star designation.

    thats what I was thinking as well >>



    Probably because the color is on the reverse. NGC tends to reserve the designation for coins with obverse toning.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    In my experience, if NGC can find a reason to not award the star, they will do exactly that and not award it. There appears to be some significant spotting on the obverse which could easily be the reason for the star snub on this incredibly toned coin. The problem is that the obverse photo is so bad, we can't really get a feel for the severity of the spotting and it's impact on the overall eye appeal of the coin.
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  • leothelyon
    leothelyon Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    EDS, lustrous, colorful, virtually markfree, semi prooflike, a 4+ quality piece. One of the greatest finds inside my 20 years with this series.
    NGc did not give it their star. I'll never send a coin to them again. I just don't have another that's much better than this one.
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    Leo

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  • rmpsrpms
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    << <i>EDS, lustrous, colorful, virtually markfree, semi prooflike, a 4+ quality piece. One of the greatest finds inside my 20 years with this series.
    NGc did not give it their star. I'll never send a coin to them again. I just don't have another that's much better than this one. Leo >>



    That is one awesome looking coin and would be a prize of my collection...RayP
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  • ChrisRx
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    Not for me.
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  • Lehigh96
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    << <i>EDS, lustrous, colorful, virtually markfree, semi prooflike, a 4+ quality piece. One of the greatest finds inside my 20 years with this series.
    NGc did not give it their star. I'll never send a coin to them again. I just don't have another that's much better than this one.
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    Leo >>



    Yes, NGC can be quite brutal with the star designation. This 42-S has absolutely phenomenal iridescent lime green and lavender toning on the obverse with crazy magenta and gold on the reverse. No Star!

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  • leothelyon
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    Super nice 1942-S! I have a few like that and I think that type of toning is the best to own.

    There's a similar coin of the OP up but it just doesn't appeal to me. The strike, grade/condition, perhaps the luster are missing from that coin. And who knows if the toning is not active? Depending on how long a coin was subjected to the environment and the chemicals it came from, how does anyone know that that coin won't continue to tone?


    Leo

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