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http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Topps-Dale-Murphy-274-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-/250640815530?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item3a5b5b55aa#shId

I've seen worse, but I still get pissed everytime I see s/h for 1 card at anything above $4 for domestic. $6? Who is this a-hole kidding?
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  • firedawg45firedawg45 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭
    i dunno my shipping, plus bubble mailer packing materials and fuel.. i think thast just fine at $4-6 range..psa charges for 1 card. food for thought
    # 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also
    collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
  • jivanjivan Posts: 1,009
    do you figure that in if you get a 45.00 card for 2.50 ????? i do.
    always looking for 1969 graded basketball
  • This weeks piss and moan about shipping thread?
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i dunno my shipping, plus bubble mailer packing materials and fuel.. i think thast just fine at $4-6 range..psa charges for 1 card. food for thought >>



    95% of the packages I receive come via USPS. USPS picks up packages from your mailbox and you can either put stamps on them at home or print out with the exact shipping charges from stamps.com. There should not be any fuel surcharge embedded in s/h charges. The cost of a bubble mailer plus the ~$1.35 that it costs you to mail 1 card almost anywhere on the east coast.... I'm sorry but that doesn't get anywhere close to $6. Some sellers make all their margin on BS shipping charges instead of on the cards themselves. Thats not cool.
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    Always buying Bobby Cox inserts. PM me.


  • << <i>http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Topps-Dale-Murphy-274-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-/250640815530?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item3a5b5b55aa#shId

    I've seen worse, but I still get pissed everytime I see s/h for 1 card at anything above $4 for domestic. $6? Who is this a-hole kidding? >>



    Doesn't bother me anymore. If you don't want the card, don't buy it.

    I've bought and sold plenty on Ebay. Bottom line right now with Paypal charges and Ebay's 6% final value fee, sellers are getting raped on fees. God Bless him if he can get six bucks for shipping.
  • firedawg45firedawg45 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭
    and thats your opinion but when you live in rural areas if not that easy. im sure your a city boy... you need to look at the whole picture...most rural areas that arent usps have sur charges. is it really hurting you, get over, thats life, psa does it everday to us..do the math
    # 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also
    collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    For graded cards, I charge $3.00 for the first one, and $0.50 for each additional graded card, with a $6.00 limit. I just got done shipping 24 graded cards to one person for $6.00.

    I agree with the idea of consider the shipping cost when setting your bid. Let ebay deal with the shipping gougers.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    If you guys spent as much time thinking about cold fusion as you do agonizing over shipping charges on Ebay I swear to God you could collectively win a Nobel prize by 2012.
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    << <i>and thats your opinion but when you live in rural areas if not that easy. im sure your a city boy... you need to look at the whole picture...most rural areas that arent usps have sur charges. is it really hurting you, get over, thats life, psa does it everday to us..do the math >>



    Please give us the details of this "rural area" where you live that charges $6 for shipping a 3.5 ounce bubble mailer. does it involve a horse and carraige? the only thing more surprising than ridiculously high s/h charges from ebay sellers are the people on CU boards who defend them.
    Successful transactions with: thedutymon, tsalems1, davidpuddy, probstein123, lodibrewfan, gododgersfan, dialj, jwgators, copperjj, larryp, hookem, boopotts, crimsontider, rogermnj, swartz1, Counselor

    Always buying Bobby Cox inserts. PM me.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should be thanking him and his shipping rate for stopping you from buying that ugly PSA 10.
  • ZixxZixx Posts: 228 ✭✭
    For one, the buyer is paying insurance. That's why his shipping charges are all over the board depending on the value of the item.

    Secondly, the seller is probably assuming the card will go for a certain amount. I have no idea what that is for this card, but if he thinks it's in the $50-100 range, that's $2.25 insurance from USPS right there which makes the S&H a reasonable $3.75 for sending a slabbed card.
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
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  • I know, it makes people look cheap.......
    In the USA all men are created equal but some are more equal than others....
  • sschauer513sschauer513 Posts: 113 ✭✭
    For everyone that complains about shipping do they sell on eBay? I challenge anyone that complains put 100 cards on eBay and see how much time it takes to pack them and ship them correctly. How much time you loose answering questions how much eBay and PayPal nickle and dimes you shipping a card for $2 depending on finial value you lose money with the fees. And yes I can put 1-3 packages out for the mailman but I don't leave 20-30 for him unless I want a pissed mailman and rest of my mail crushed.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    LOL!!! Gotta love the excessive shipping charge thread!! You ain't seen nothing until you've paid $25,000 for a toilet seat!
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Then maybe you should offer free shipping and adjust your starting bid accordingly.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    +1 For Boopotts.


    Steve




    Good for you.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    better things to whine about:

    Resort Fee - cool way for a hotel to steal more money from you, and justify it.......that's ok, i'm a towel thief.

    Baggage Fee - cool way for airlines to steal more money from you, and justify it......that's ok, i'm learning how to stuff all of my personal items into the socks i happen to be wearing on that flight, it's just awkward walking down the aisle sometimes.

    Taco Bell $2 Meal Deal - seriously. does anyone recognize Assisted Suicide?
  • The bottom line is as long as the seller posts the shipping costs prominently in the auction, you know ahead of time, and you have the freedom to choose whether to buy or not. That's the beauty of it.

    I understand the frustration. There has been times where I have been looking for a particual card for a long time, I finally find it on ebay, the price is reasonable, but the shipping is outrageous. I either bite the bullet or choose to pass, but at least I have the choice.

    As a seller, I usually offer free shipping or really low shipping. That's just part of my business model.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Ebay has unfortunately (for the seller anyway), pushed the seller towards offering free shipping. Unfortunately, true cost of shipping is anything but free. The price of postage seems to go up yearly. Ebay is also pushing sellers towards offering 99 cent auctions. As a seller, if I auction a card for 99 cents AND offer free shipping and it only attracts one bid, then I basically LOSE money on the transaction. I would just as soon donate the card to Goodwill or throw it in the trash, rather than go in the hole shipping a card.
  • Linky

    Really not bad shipping rates. Notice the shipping includes insurance. The seller usually gets strong prices for graded cards, so he is probably expecting that here.
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    It's not dead yet...



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    Who is Rober Maris?
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Are you kidding me??!?! Some of these board members would CRUCIFY you over a $6 shipping charge. I am totally amazed that prewarcardcollector hasn't lost his "top rated seller" status yet....I am sure that is coming......

    Edited to add: Nevermind - I see he already lost it.....
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭
    How about we start the "OFFICIAL Ebay Shipping Cost Thread?"

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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How about we start the "OFFICIAL Ebay Shipping Cost Thread?"

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    I'm afraid it may need it's own forum John. image
  • firedawg45firedawg45 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭
    not defending them, dont have to..its there stuff, if you cant come off a few bucks, then dont cry about it...
    # 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also
    collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    buy the card, not the carrier.
  • I always just adjust my bidding accordingly. If you are willing to pay a total of $20 for this card, then bid a max of $14. If the shipping is free, then bid $20. If you don't want to bid based on the shipping charge, then move on to the next auction. At least he started the bidding at $0.99 to give some wiggle room on price.


    That said, $16.95 for a rack pack? C'mon now!! 1967 Pack
  • I think I would offer free shipping as long as the buyer has to pay the ebay's FVF 9% + paypal 2.9% + listing fees, but I would never list another card that I didn't think would bring 20.00 or more.

    as I think it has been said before. if the seller states the S/H cost in the auction just figure that in with your highest bid.
    Then give the seller 5 stars across the board if he delivers in a timely manner and in said condition.

    with ebays new we make the seller bend over rules, it is no wonder more and more sellers are going to insuring everything they ship and also charging more for shipping to cover it, it is also difficult to guess what a card will end up at in an auction format.

    so let's figure this: list card starting at 9.99 + 5.00 S/H plus pic of front & back of 1 PSA graded card. .40 cent list fee.
    card sells for 100.00 dollars + 5.00 s/h . Ebay gets 9.00 + paypal gets 3.30. total fees so far for seller 12.70
    Seller goes and mails card 20 cent mailer + (the free tape & ink & bubble wrap that walmart gives away NOT) + 2.25 insurance + DC 80 cents + 1.39 first class mail total 4.64 to mail it. total out of pocket for seller 18.34 not counting time + gas ( everyone can't wait for the postman to come and pick up the mail plus you are supposed to have at least 1 priority package for them to pick up your mail)
    So in the end 105.00 -18.34 the seller gets $86.66. Then the seller gets slammed on stars because on the package it only shows them paying $4.44 to ship it.

    if the card only sells for 10.00 + 5.00 s/h. The seller nets a whopping $8.82 out of the $15.00 dollar card if he insures it.Then the seller gets slammed on stars because on the package it only shows them paying $3.94 to ship it.

    so my question is I list a 1963 Topps PSA 8 Mickey Mantle start bid at .99, how much do I charge for S/H & INS. to break even at the post office ? please pretend you are the seller and not some flea market bottom feeder (looking for a 63 Rose RC in the 5 for 1.00 box of cards) and then asking hey if I buy a lot can I get them 6 for a 1.00 (meaning I will spend $2.00). before you answer!

    1. $3.00
    2. $5.00
    3. $6.00
    4. $10.00
    5. $12.00
    6. more than any above?

    No wonder why 85% of ebay is now "buy it now or make offer" hey but they offer free shipping LOL. image
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    "...Some sellers make all their margin on shipping charges instead of on the cards themselves...."


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    Does that mean there is NO money to be made using EBAY auctions
    to sell most cards?
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    "...plus you are supposed to have at least 1 priority package for them to pick up your mail..."


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    That is for pickups scheduled by appointment.

    You can load your mailbox with regular mail - at the risk of
    aggravating some carriers - without making an appointment.

    I use a big mailbox and a crate on the side. This is not a good
    idea, obviously, unless you are in a secure area.


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you guys spent as much time thinking about cold fusion as you do agonizing over shipping charges on Ebay I swear to God you could collectively win a Nobel prize by 2012. >>



    Amen to that Boo.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.........You can load your mailbox with regular mail - at the risk of
    aggravating some carriers - without making an appointment............ >>



    As long as the weight of each package is under 13 ounces or less. Over 13 ounces has to be given to a clerk at the PO. At least that's how it is for me here in N.Y.C.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>.........You can load your mailbox with regular mail - at the risk of
    aggravating some carriers - without making an appointment............ >>



    As long as the weight of each package is under 13 ounces or less. Over 13 ounces has to be given to a clerk at the PO. At least that's how it is for me here in N.Y.C. >>



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    That is certainly the official policy.

    But, many/most carriers are willing to accept larger parcels
    from senders that are known to them.

    I have never had a large parcel rejected at the curb; even
    by relief carriers that don't know me.





    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • well, I am lucky if I can get my carrier to pick up a 44 cent PWE. I could see leaving about 20 packages on the front porch & just hoping the postal carrier gets to them 1st, before some other carrier (thief).

    I feel the pain of the rural/country area sellers were their mailbox is next to road 100 feet from the house.image
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>..........But, many/most carriers are willing to accept larger parcels
    from senders that are known to them.

    I have never had a large parcel rejected at the curb; even
    by relief carriers that don't know me. >>



    I wish that were the case here. I've had the same carrier for years, and we've become pretty friendly since I take very good care of him at Christmastime, and he has told me he would gladly take the larger parcels from me a the curb, but I would most likely be getting them back in a day or two. He has a vehicle, so I know he isn't just BS-ing me to avoid lugging heavier stuff back to the PO.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Card looks like an 8 to me.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 844 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you guys spent as much time thinking about cold fusion as you do agonizing over shipping charges on Ebay I swear to God you could collectively win a Nobel prize by 2012. >>



    Ha.
  • KnopflerKnopfler Posts: 783 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I always just adjust my bidding accordingly. If you are willing to pay a total of $20 for this card, then bid a max of $14. If the shipping is free, then bid $20. If you don't want to bid based on the shipping charge, then move on to the next auction. At least he started the bidding at $0.99 to give some wiggle room on price.


    That said, $16.95 for a rack pack? C'mon now!! 1967 Pack >>



    Bingo. I can't understand why many bidders don't factor shipping into their total bid. It should all be about the total delivered price.
  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Combined Shipping

    We offer significant shipping discounts for multiple lots won; typically the discount is around 75%.



    Insurance Is Included with Shipping Price

    All items shipped are fully insured through PWCC Auctions."



    Different sellers have different types of offers when it comes to shipping. In this case, the benefits are found when buying multiple lots and the insurance is free. For someone who is looking to buy a handful of cards, someone trying to complete a 1980 set maybe, the shipping policy could be a good thing. For someone who is looking for a single Dale Murphy PSA 10 1980 Topps card and nothing else, this may not be the most appealing offer. In which case, you move on and look elsewhere or as someone mentioned factor the shipping into your bid price. This is my card and one of a number of cards that I sent to Brent. I don't mind having my cards being consigned under this policy. Seems fair enough to me.







  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    I used to charge $1 flat rate for each auction. Bubble mailers in bulk were about 15 cents, postage for a bubble mailer was 53 cents, ebay insert fees were 15 cents, the FVF was 4% or less maybe, my paypal was free AND I didnt have to use DC to fight away the scam artists looking for something free. Now, for those of us who dont pay a stamps.com fee and dont keep books of stamps with odd postage amounts to put on the envelope and dont have your mail carrier bring his DC scanner when he picks up items, we actually have to go to the post office to mail things.

    Now, for those people who dont buy 500 mailers at a time, their cost is usually 33 cents each. Postage for the mailer is $1.22 unless you want DC, then it adds a buck for a total of $2.22 for ONE card. So we're already up to $2.55, not counting your time, gas, penny sleeve, hard cover, etc. Granted those costs are minimal, maybe only a dime depending on how many auctions you run, but still. Then you add up the fees, 30 cents for listing, 6% FVF, 3% paypal fee. On just a small $10 item, your combined fees can run $1.50, because paypal doesnt give you the shipping costs free of fees. So out of a $10 sale, the shipping and fees will cost over $4.00, more if the item is insured.

    I ate at CraftSteak in Vegas last year, paid $165 for a meal. Yes, thats a lot, it is after all just FOOD, but I ate there, paid the money, enjoyed the meal and experience. When buying on ebay, everyone needs to take the same approach. Figure shipping costs into your bid. Nothing gripes my %$#^% more than to have someone get a card that "book" is $200, yet win an auction for $20 and then complain because the guy charges $5.95 for shipping. I mean really. Would you not have paid $25.95 for that card at a show or was the extra buck or two a dealbreaker?
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭

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    Hard to believe that was the same guy.





  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I ever lose what is left of my sanity and sell on ebay again I will have the winning bidders send me a self addressed stamped bubble mailer.
    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
    http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/

    Ralph

  • i feel no obligation to offer free shipping or cheap shipping where i lose money, honestly does not effect my ratings, in fact ive gotten less feedback and weaker stars when doing so. charge a fair price and if you make a few pennies no big deal.

    I figure that my time, effort and labor do count when packaging an order safely and securely, and i enjoy going to the post office twice a week, its not out of my way and im on excellent terms with everyone who works there. Comes in handy when something goes awry or you need some assistance. Amazing how well you get treated when they know you and your friendly and courteous with them.

    Only had 2 or 3 instances where i needed some help with issues, but they were fantastic and it paid to have a good relationship with the folks at the P.O.

    If someone is charging $6 for shipping i wont bid as much or if its a best offer i will lower my bid. The less money in ebays pocket the better, especially given how they treat smaller sellers these days.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>.........You can load your mailbox with regular mail - at the risk of
    aggravating some carriers - without making an appointment............ >>



    As long as the weight of each package is under 13 ounces or less. Over 13 ounces has to be given to a clerk at the PO. At least that's how it is for me here in N.Y.C. >>



    /////////////////

    That is certainly the official policy.

    But, many/most carriers are willing to accept larger parcels
    from senders that are known to them.

    I have never had a large parcel rejected at the curb; even
    by relief carriers that don't know me. >>




    I have that problem here. Also, I have to go to a clerk to mail media or foreign, which is always 7-8 packages a week.

    But by going to the PO I can use the machine with I am very fast on. I put the label on the last one while the next one is printing....so I am always waiting on the machine. It means about 30 secs. a package instead of a couple min. if I did it at home. Times that by 40 packages and it save a lot of time.

    I try to save a little in postage by buying discount postage on ebay. (You can buy stamps at 80-90% face all day long and sometimes cheaper). Plus I recycle what I can. It helps offset a little, but not much.


    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a question about S&H and feedback. I won 2 cards from a seller (2 seperate listings). In each listing the S&H is $6. After I win I get an invoice for $12 S&H. I ask him if he combines S&H and he says that does not since he uses signature confirmation and insurance. The total value of the cards were $215, I still thought it was high but for a few bucks I'm not going to worry about it.

    I came home and the cards were sitting on my porch, no signature required or insurance. Plus the holders were both damaged on the upper right corner, it looks like someone dropped the cards.

    I contacted the seller and he says that he is not a store and is just a part-time seller. He does have less than 100 feedback. Ironically he was selling a new Omega Seamaster watch, which goes for over $1000 and the S&H was only $15.

    What feedback should I leave?
    Mike


  • << <i>I have a question about S&H and feedback. I won 2 cards from a seller (2 seperate listings). In each listing the S&H is $6. After I win I get an invoice for $12 S&H. I ask him if he combines S&H and he says that does not since he uses signature confirmation and insurance. The total value of the cards were $215, I still thought it was high but for a few bucks I'm not going to worry about it.

    I came home and the cards were sitting on my porch, no signature required or insurance. Plus the holders were both damaged on the upper right corner, it looks like someone dropped the cards.

    I contacted the seller and he says that he is not a store and is just a part-time seller. He does have less than 100 feedback. Ironically he was selling a new Omega Seamaster watch, which goes for over $1000 and the S&H was only $15.

    What feedback should I leave? >>



    I guess you are talking about PSA graded cards? if the slabs are damaged I would ask for a full refund and send the cards back or ask for enough money to have the cards reslabbed as long as neither card was damaged, or if these are raw and there was no damage to the cards, I would either leave No feedback at all or leave positive feedback but leave low stars on S/H charges.
    For 215 + 12 S/H, the seller should have at least provided insurance & delivery confirmation. Insurance + signature con. should have only been 8.00 to 10.00 bucks and that is what he promised.

    I just sold a card that I under estimated the final price on, it ended at 350 with S/H of 3.00, you better believe it is going out in bubble mailer or priority box, with signature confirmation + insurance. figure S/H going to run me about 8 to 10 bucks (but I am happy), I just hope the buyer pays & gives me 5 stars across the board. Signature confirmation is not required until the price hits 250.00.

    your seller will learn real quick about DC & signature confirmation, when someone claims they never received the item & gets the product & their money back to boot.

    Positive or negative or neutral feedback: received cards but damaged holders due to poor packaging + overcharged for shipping your choice. JMHO image
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What feedback should I leave? >>




    A Neg?


    Two Negs?


    Steve
    Good for you.
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