I Need to Rant..I'm so Frickin' Pissed !!!

thedutymon · June 1, 2010 5:40AM

Afternoon,
I really wanted this item...At least close to as described, I am not a neophyte, I understand about buying on Fee-Bay, but this is ludicrous:

Auction: 200472968607

Good Day,
Due to your rediculous Piss Poor packaging the strips have arrived with major damage. I can't believe I spend $142.00 and all you can do is put them loose between two pieces of cardboard. No wrapping, no padding, no nothing, nothing to keep them from moving around in transit. Good going dude, one more piece of History destroyed via Neglegence!!! What a joke!!
Due to this the package was bent in half destroying all 5 complete strips, cards 537, 545, 521, 528, and 504 are all Creased/Torn now. In addition your description of MINT is laughable, End cards on each strip are worn, rounded, creased, bent, and scuffed, MINT...Try VG or so!! Strip 533-540 is water stained on the back, and the two 4-card strips 515 is creased, 516 is torn and creased, other strip of 4, 509 creased/bent & has Holes.
Due to there previous condition and the added damage you caused to happen these are now worth about $50 bucks at best.

Oh and before somebody asks, NO Insurance, No Nothing....I will wait to see what he says, either way will be filing my SNAD before the day is out!!!!!!

Neil N. Duty
thedutymon

hhmag70 · June 1, 2010 5:47AM

and the seller is...

Sorry to hear btw.

jeffcbay · June 1, 2010 5:58AM

auction linky

gameusedhoop · June 1, 2010 5:58AM

Link to auction

pswebauctions · June 1, 2010 6:06AM

Neil, Could you tell us how you really feel? Hey guys, I think he is upset!

Seriously Neil - that stinks. I hope you get your money back. I hate sellers like this - can't grade and then have no clue on how to ship.

Good luck.

Boopotts · June 1, 2010 6:12AM

FWIW, mix in the spell check before sending an email. I don't know if everyone is like this, but when I get an email with words like 'ridiculous' and 'negligence' spelled wrong I assume I'm dealing with a crackpot, and I'm much less likely to work with the other party to find a satisfactory resolution to the problem since I assume the other party isn't prepared to act like a grown-up. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but generally speaking it doesn't hurt your cause to put together a well prepared, professsional sounding email when you're looking for a speedy resolution to a problem.

drewsef · June 1, 2010 6:27AM

You come off as a fool sending such a message. Step back, take a deep breath, and briefly tell the seller they were poorly packaged, some were not as advertised, and ask for their address to mail them back to due to the poor packaging and other issues. If you really get this worked up over $142 I would suggest finding something more relaxing to help out with stress.

thedutymon · June 1, 2010 6:33AM

<< FWIW, mix in the spell check before sending an email. I don't know if everyone is like this, but when I get an email with words like 'ridiculous' and 'negligence' spelled wrong I assume I'm dealing with a crackpot, and I'm much less likely to work with the other party to find a satisfactory resolution to the problem since I assume the other party isn't prepared to act like a grown-up. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but generally speaking it doesn't hurt your cause to put together a well prepared, professsional sounding email when you're looking for a speedy resolution to a problem. >>

Boo,

Thanks for the FWIW, I did spell check this after I copied it for posting to CU, also re-read it and edited a little before sending (Actually Not Much). This one just really pisses me off because I have won 50-60 auctions in the last month, and believe it or not this was one of only two or three I wanted for myself (The rest are for flippin')....And bad...I had even had my high bid at $250.00.
And normally I try to be much more diplomatic, but don't really care in this case as we all know with E-Bay the Buyer is always right system, this is a slam dunk for me. His NOW Trash will be back in his same Piss Poor package and sent back to him tomorrow with DC after filing my SNAD after waiting a few hours to see if he answers me!!
And I meant it when I said this Idiot destroyed a Piece of History!!!! Also, just a further note, this is the same clown who had this Auction end, and the next day E-Mailed and said he wouldn't be able to ship for 5 days because he was going Fishing!!!

Neil

mcadams · June 1, 2010 7:14AM

<< You come off as a fool sending such a message. Step back, take a deep breath, and briefly tell the seller they were poorly packaged, some were not as advertised, and ask for their address to mail them back to due to the poor packaging and other issues. If you really get this worked up over $142 I would suggest finding something more relaxing to help out with stress. >>

Actually, I don't know anyone who wouldn't get worked up over $142. I think that amount is worth getting worked up about. However, I agree that the "attack" email is rarely useful if you're trying to get a refund. Wait until your cash is returned, then send him a nasty email about what he's destroyed.

jswieton · June 1, 2010 7:18AM

<< You come off as a fool sending such a message. Step back, take a deep breath, and briefly tell the seller they were poorly packaged, some were not as advertised, and ask for their address to mail them back to due to the poor packaging and other issues. If you really get this worked up over $142 I would suggest finding something more relaxing to help out with stress. >>

I don't know what planet you live on, but $142 is a decent chunk of change to most people. I completely understand the frustration theDutymon feels because of a negligent seller. Nothing is more upsetting then when my cards are damaged because of poor packaging.

storm888 · June 1, 2010 7:23AM

"...Nothing is more upsetting than when my cards [or other items] are damaged because of poor packaging...."

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Yup.

It tells me that the seller does not give a rat's butt
about me getting what I paid for.

Proper packaging is such an easy "skill" to master
that failing to do so can only be judged as an act
of greed and laziness.

Guru · June 1, 2010 7:34AM

Being one who has used the "I'm Pissed Off" email tactic...I can honestly say it never worked. I would be pissed too. However, I think a cool, calm, and collective way of dealing with this would have been in order.
No one can tell anyone how to react and I know it would have been hard for me not to react the same way.

grote15 · June 1, 2010 7:35AM

I think you could have handled this a bit more maturely...that e-mail makes you sound, as Boo said, a crackpot...JMHO..sorry to hear your cards were damaged though.

CrimsonTider · June 1, 2010 7:49AM

Give us his address and lets all send him a turd

CrimsonTider · June 1, 2010 7:50AM

Neil,

You have my permission to rant

Joey

diamondman · June 1, 2010 8:09AM

Ah come on Neil tell us how you really feel?.

On a serious note, I feel your pain, it is bad when we don't get what we paid for and even more so when it is a rare item that is difficult or near impossible to locate again. Hope everything works out for you and hope the seller learns better ways to ship and protect the items he sells.

PS: always remember to use the heavy duty PWE when shipping 100-10,000 dollar cards.

Morgoth · June 1, 2010 8:11AM

At least he didnt cut up a pepsi carton and ship a $300 card to you in it.

stevek · June 1, 2010 8:36AM

Frankly, it continues to astonish me that any seller who has enough intelligence to use a computer and initiate an ebay auction, doesn't also have the intelligence to understand to use a proper heavy weight cardboard shipping carton to ship items such as this.

WarHoundR69 · June 1, 2010 8:43AM

This stinks. I'd be more pissed about the cards being damaged than the money. They keep printing more money but not cards. Sorry this happened to you Neil.

drewsef · June 1, 2010 8:54AM

<< 

<< You come off as a fool sending such a message. Step back, take a deep breath, and briefly tell the seller they were poorly packaged, some were not as advertised, and ask for their address to mail them back to due to the poor packaging and other issues. If you really get this worked up over $142 I would suggest finding something more relaxing to help out with stress. >>

I don't know what planet you live on, but $142 is a decent chunk of change to most people. I completely understand the frustration theDutymon feels because of a negligent seller. Nothing is more upsetting then when my cards are damaged because of poor packaging. >>

You must be young and live at home then. $142 to get that worked up, and cause that much stress? I will take the low stress road everytime. Neil has a history of posting on here complaining about his grades or what happened on ebay, do you think getting that worked up everytime is really worth the potential health issues from so many times getting this bent out of shape over? I don't.

And I don't know what planet you live on, but if nothing is more upsetting than when your pieces of cardboard are damaged because of poor packaging, then well you live quite the charmed life. I think death is more upsetting to me, as well as dozens of other things off the top of my head.

otwcards · June 1, 2010 9:45AM

Sorry to hear your horror story!

I'm so sick of sellers lazy shipping methods. Today I received two packages with some modern rookie lots I've been picking up. One was about 30 cards and the other was an 11 card lot. Both were put into team bags and thrown into bubble mailers. No cover cards, no cardboard, no protection, NOTHING! This has been the norm as I've bought and received 9 lots in the past few weeks and all but 1 were shipped in this manner (one even opened and the cards were all loose in the bubble mailer). And these dolts charge $3.00-$5.00 to ship?

I miss the days when you'd buy a 10-20 card lot and actually have it packaged so that MINT cards would arrive in MINT condition, not all with corner dings...

MULLINS5 · June 1, 2010 10:06AM

<< At least he didnt cut up a pepsi carton and ship a $300 card to you in it.

>>

This reminds me of when a guy used a pizza hut box and card sleeve, I'm pretty sure the stain on the back was not from wax.

SidePocket · June 1, 2010 10:27AM

That really stinks. I got a single '10 Heritage card today packaged so well it took 5 minutes to open and this guy couldn't take the time to package those properly?

jswieton · June 1, 2010 12:04PM

<< 

<< 

<< You come off as a fool sending such a message. Step back, take a deep breath, and briefly tell the seller they were poorly packaged, some were not as advertised, and ask for their address to mail them back to due to the poor packaging and other issues. If you really get this worked up over $142 I would suggest finding something more relaxing to help out with stress. >>

I don't know what planet you live on, but $142 is a decent chunk of change to most people. I completely understand the frustration theDutymon feels because of a negligent seller. Nothing is more upsetting then when my cards are damaged because of poor packaging. >>

You must be young and live at home then. $142 to get that worked up, and cause that much stress? I will take the low stress road everytime. Neil has a history of posting on here complaining about his grades or what happened on ebay, do you think getting that worked up everytime is really worth the potential health issues from so many times getting this bent out of shape over? I don't.

And I don't know what planet you live on, but if nothing is more upsetting than when your pieces of cardboard are damaged because of poor packaging, then well you live quite the charmed life. I think death is more upsetting to me, as well as dozens of other things off the top of my head. >>

Are you for real, it was a figure of speech?? I am not interested in getting into a flame war here but I'm not really sure how you can compare death to card collecting. The point was that it is upsetting to get a damaged card because the seller is to lazy to package it properly. I am truly happy for you that you are fortunate enough to waste $142. I really hope that when I grow up I can reach your level of success. However, I am sure the dozens of board members that have lost their jobs over the past year may think otherwise.

thedutymon · June 1, 2010 2:56PM

Evening,

Thank you John, and those of you who understand my frustration and disappointment in making a purchase and having crap delivered. Those few of you who don't, well whatever, hopefully you'll understand when I explain to you ,that sticking it where the sun don't shine will be my answer to you, is what is, as well !!!

I have come to an agreement with the Seller, because he has no interest in getting damaged product back that he will not be able to re-sell. I agreed to purchase the lot for $60, and will recieve a refund through Paypal within an hour of our negotiations for the rest.

I only agreed to do this as there are about 1/3 of the cards on the strips that are in NM/MT condition, after all is said and done. I will be taking the strips and with all terrible feelings, will be seperating them very carefully. I have never done this with any strips from this set, hopefully they come apart without to much difficulty.

Wish me luck!!!

Neil

Carew29 · June 1, 2010 3:27PM

And to all....a good night!!

grote15 · June 1, 2010 3:36PM

Whadda ya know, it sounds like the seller is a decent fellow, after all, his poor packaging skills notwithstanding..

KbKards · June 2, 2010 1:19AM

Good luck with your separating. High grades must be difficult.

America at War

leathtech · June 2, 2010 1:30AM

glad to hear the seller was willing to work everything out... good luck with the breaking up of the strips!

packCollector · June 2, 2010 1:32AM

glad it worked out but I think you could have handled it better. I had a similar situation. shipped an oversized card between 2 thick pieces of cardboard in an oversided envelope. Wrote "Please do not bend" in large sharpie on the front and back, remind you that this was thick cardboard so you would need to go out of your way to bend it. mailman bent it in 1/2 anyway and ruined it. buyer contacted me and said that it came folded and ruined and asked how to proceed. I said please send it back for a full refund. he did , I refunded and we were both satisfied(except the 100 year old item was destroyed). he showed it to his postal manager as well who reprimanded the carrier.

clayshooter22 · June 2, 2010 3:21AM

I usually just read threads like this and laugh because, really, what can you do but.

I buy a lot of $1-5 items on ebay looking for items for my Puckett registry and it has become the rule over the last 6 months that cards are being shipped in PWE ..or worse. Today was an all time low....guy folds a 5X7 index card in half, tape the edges, addresses, stamps and sends. When I get stuff like this I just have to laugh. For $2something postage he can't even reuse a bubble mailer, lol. Sometimes I get my whole $3 of fun just by laughing at the morons who package this stuff.

Garabaldi · June 2, 2010 5:45AM

It is just pure laziness.

I Need to Rant..I'm so Frickin' Pissed !!!

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