VCP VS SMR

Dodger243 · May 9, 2010 11:45PM

Most people on this board think VCP is more up to date with pricing than SMR, I would have to agree. I get my SMR magazine and take a quick look and throw it in the garbage because for the most part the pricing has not changed. My question is, what is keeping SMR from taking some of VCP information on pricing and putting it in their price guide,say the 50's one month and the 60's the next month and so on,just wondering?

alifaxwa2 · May 9, 2010 11:52PM

Licensing fees.

hammered · May 10, 2010 12:15AM

If it wasn't for the amazing articles, I'd throw mine away too

Planemonkey · May 10, 2010 12:17AM

I think the real question is why can't vcp make a paper price guide?
I know I would want one.

Dodger243 · May 10, 2010 12:26AM

Yes,a paper price guide would be nice,at least you would be only a month behind in pricing instead of years behind.

Morgoth · May 10, 2010 12:52AM

Probably because of the enormity in cost of printing nowadays. With the reduction of printed materials, printers are charging more for their services to make up for it.

Also journals, magazines and newspapers have been dying for years. Why would they want to invest huge costs into a dying format?

I think the easiest solution is for them to have a fee for you to be able to print off their website. It could be set up just to print what you want. It would take the cost out of their pocket and make it were you would only print the info you wanted.

parkerj · May 10, 2010 1:15AM

I use vcp and export it to excel and print from there. its a little cumbersome, but there are a few tricks that make it reasonable. I would post them here, but i know bobby reads this and i think maybe they don't want you to figure out the tricks to print it, since it seems to be tricky.

theczar · May 10, 2010 2:45AM

If it wasn't for the amazing articles, I'd throw mine away too

don't forget the centerfold spread to see if a card is shaved or is brazillian.

Mickey71 · May 10, 2010 3:31AM

I've stopped trying to figure out what's the deal with the SMR. I'm going to take a guess and say that dealers are not that crazy about VCP.

olb31 · May 10, 2010 3:33AM

VCP is a fine tool and as long as the continually update the site, they can become the CCP and Beckett of the 2010's.

BobbyVCP · May 10, 2010 3:49AM

Just a tip what you can do is in your Want List there is a notes field and here you can enter the value for the cards. Then you can print out this list or download it as a csv file. So when you go to a show you have your complete Want List with the most current values printed out. If you create different groups for all you sets and or players then you should be very organized and be able to find values for purchases fast and easy.

Updating the site is done within 5 minutes of any auction ending on eBay minus the BIN's and usually within 24 hours of other auction houses that we cover. I think this is the fastest it can possible be done and we are the only Real Time price guide out there.

calaban7 · May 10, 2010 9:38AM

<< <i>If it wasn't for the amazing articles, I'd throw mine away too

don't forget the centerfold spread to see if a card is shaved or is brazillian. >>

Now that's an idea !!!!!

fiveniner · May 11, 2010 1:53AM

I just read the articles on SMR.I just use recently sold data and use that for a tool.

diamondman · May 11, 2010 8:56AM

<< <i>I've stopped trying to figure out what's the deal with the SMR. I'm going to take a guess and say that dealers are not that crazy about VCP. >>

I would have to agree , because people are starting to treat VCP like Beckett used to be as gospel and everyone wants it 20 to 50% of what VCP shows and as we all know PSA 9's or whatever grade are not all the same (eye appeal ect ect ), this is also why there are fewer and fewer real auctions on Ebay. just my 2 cents

MCMLVTopps · May 11, 2010 12:21PM

The difference between SMR and VCP, is that SMR is basically an educated guess from somebody in Newport Beach, CA, VCP reflects final sale price of a given card on a given date. Clearly VCP is head and shoulders above SMR, which is basically useless and never reflects current market conditions.

The thought of taking VCP info and transferring to SMR is, I'm sure, more than illegal and would result in a serious law suit against those who publish SMR. Sadly, SMR has the potential, but never quite seems to get the hang of reality, though they perennially tout "we scour sales, blah, blah, blah" just can't be so.

Buyers may want "x" of VCP, but that's between a buyer and seller..as stated, VCP merely reflects final sales, no more no less. I am very please with my VCP account and have used the "want list" to receive email notifications of cards I'm looking for...SMR will never do this. AND YES, I've had conversations about this with the highest members of the PSA organization to no avail...I have simply no more time, nor effort to continue this "discussion" with them.

As for a paper version of VCP, the printing and mailing would be more than cumbersome and not viable from a business perspective in terms of cost and maintaining mail lists, blah, blah.

waxpack · May 11, 2010 12:33PM

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