Is this Gretzky RC Trimmed?

stanforddude · April 24, 2010 3:08PM

Is this card trimmed? Sheet cut? Or one of the few that left the factory without the rough cut? It does have the two parallel blue lines on the back, indicating that it's from the first print run, so I suppose there's a chance it's legit. Hockey experts please chime in!

storm888 · April 24, 2010 3:12PM

If the folks at CSA are not crooks or dumb, the card is likely legit.

MULLINS5 · April 24, 2010 3:15PM

I said to myself "sheet cut," then after seeing the blue first print run line have no idea. Very good question...do uncut sheets have the print line?

lsutigers1973 · April 24, 2010 3:41PM

Reprint. Mullins has about 50 just like them.

stanforddude · April 24, 2010 3:56PM

I'm sure it's NOT a reprint based on the print dot on the left shoulder and the blue lines on the back.

What I'm not sure of is 1) trimming and/or 2) cut from a sheet.

MULLINS5 · April 24, 2010 4:12PM

for sure NOT a reprint.

as lsu said, I do have about 50 reprints.

thunderdan · April 24, 2010 4:16PM

<< If the folks at CSA are not crooks or dumb, the card is likely legit. >>

The card is actually graded by KSA. CSA cards are often trimmed. I've tried buying a few and cracking/submitting to PSA. All came back trimmed. Never tried it with KSA graded cards, though.

storm888 · April 24, 2010 4:32PM

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<< If the folks at CSA are not crooks or dumb, the card is likely legit. >>

The card is actually graded by KSA. CSA cards are often trimmed. I've tried buying a few and cracking/submitting to PSA. All came back trimmed. Never tried it with KSA graded cards, though. >>

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That will teach me to lean in closer to the screen.

The "K" looked like a "C," to me.

I don't know if KSA is any good or not.

EagleEyeKid · April 24, 2010 5:01PM

It's a sheet cut and KSA does grade sheet cuts.
Just ask Martinsports (ebay ID) who cuts everything from sheets
and sends to BGS. If he cuts it too short, he sends them to KSA.

Barfvader · April 24, 2010 9:50PM

<< for sure NOT a reprint.

as lsu said, I do have about 50 rXXXXXXs counterfeits. >>

Fixed it for you as per your PM to me

<< "I know these are counterfeits but I didn't make them" >>

MULLINS5 · April 25, 2010 2:07AM

<< It's a sheet cut and KSA does grade sheet cuts.
Just ask Martinsports (ebay ID) who cuts everything from sheets
and sends to BGS. If he cuts it too short, he sends them to KSA. >>

Bryan, do the uncut sheets have the blue early print factory line?

EagleEyeKid · April 25, 2010 5:53AM

To be honest, I do not know anything about the early print factory line. All I know is I've seen too many razor sharp OPC edges in KSA holders.

stanforddude · April 25, 2010 6:28AM

There are two parallel thin blue lines running horizontally across the back of the card, underneath the skates of the cartoon player. From what I have been told, these lines indicate that the card came from the 1st print run of the 1979 set. 1st print run cards tend to have much sharper edges. Whenever you find a Gretzky RC with those really shaggy OPC edges, it will invariably NOT have the blue lines on the back.

MULLINS5 · April 25, 2010 7:20AM

<< There are two parallel thin blue lines running horizontally across the back of the card, underneath the skates of the cartoon player. From what I have been told, these lines indicate that the card came from the 1st print run of the 1979 set. 1st print run cards tend to have much sharper edges. Whenever you find a Gretzky RC with those really shaggy OPC edges, it will invariably NOT have the blue lines on the back. >>

This is true. The 1st print run Gretzky '79 OPCs have sharper edges. Here is a pic of my Gretzky 1st print run that I sold a few years ago:

this KSA card may be the real deal. You have to remember, a lot of Canadian collectors go for KSA over PSA.

artistlost · April 25, 2010 12:42PM

<< You have to remember, a lot of Canadian collectors go for KSA over PSA. >>

Not the smart ones.

mathew

eagles33 · April 26, 2010 2:55AM

that psa 9 looks great.. i've only seen one or 2 scans of the psa 10.. and this 9 looks way better.. i still don't get how a card with such a bad edge could get graded a 10.

CDsNuts · April 26, 2010 3:06AM

There are two parallel thin blue lines running horizontally across the back of the card, underneath the skates of the cartoon player. From what I have been told, these lines indicate that the card came from the 1st print run of the 1979 set. 1st print run cards tend to have much sharper edges. Whenever you find a Gretzky RC with those really shaggy OPC edges, it will invariably NOT have the blue lines on the back.

Wow, I actually learned something form these forums today.

hammered · April 26, 2010 3:34AM

Maybe the thin blue lines/smooth edges means they all came from the same counterfeiter.

Barfvader · April 26, 2010 3:36AM

<< Maybe the thin blue lines/smooth edges means they all came from the same counterfeiter. >>

billwaltonsbeard · April 26, 2010 5:28AM

what sized sheets would you guys recommend for trimmed Gretzky RCs?

Is this Gretzky RC Trimmed?

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