1966 Mickey Mantle worth reviewing to try and bet a .5 bump?

twiley · April 22, 2010 3:50PM

Hi - I got this card when I was 10 years old. My mother bought it for me at a card show for 20 bucks. Its pretty much in the same shape when she bought it for me. Yeah I know its only a psa 1. Do you think this might bump to a 1.5? I submitted the card myself before the .5 system was put in place. Also want to mention I had it slabbed just for protection for sentimental reasons. Thank you in advance.

Don't laugh...

Pigs · April 22, 2010 3:56PM

I think the corners are too rough for a bump. Leave it the way it is and enjoy.

mlbfan2 · April 22, 2010 3:57PM

It doesn't sound like you're going to sell it, so why waste the money?

twiley · April 22, 2010 4:08PM

<< <i>It doesn't sound like you're going to sell it, so why waste the money? >>

You are correct I wont sell it. If my kids decide to though after I am dust.

I agree the corners are bad. They were always bad on that card, but the fraying wasn't as visible bad before I subbed it. The swear the grader of death picked at it to make it worse then it was. Especially on the top left corner front. Also this card was submitted along with a bunch of 1984 Topps that grades came back worse then my expectations. I know the grader of death did that particular submission I sent in...

still I think it is one of the nicer PSA 1 cards I have seen, At least its not all bent and creased up...

Pigs · April 22, 2010 4:15PM

The fraying on the corners looks like it was done long ago IMO. They have a "dirty" look representing age, as compared to recent damage which would leave a clean paper loss . I wouldn't put the tampering tag on PSA for this one.

BugOnTheRug · April 22, 2010 4:16PM

I would either crack it out and resubmit, or leave it alone. Review in this case is worthless imo.

JHS5120 · April 22, 2010 4:32PM

<< <i>I would either crack it out and resubmit, or leave it alone. Review in this case is worthless imo. >>

I completely agree. The only reason people choose reviews over cracking out the card is because they are worried about a lower grade. In your case there is no possible lower grade (except auth. which it won't get) so you should crack it out and resub. Plus, it is usually a lot faster to sub a raw card then have a graded card reviewed. If there are no creases then it is possible that it grades a 2 even. Just an opinion.
Jason

72skywalker · April 22, 2010 9:18PM

If you will never sell it I would save the money and not resubmit. even if you got the .5 bump what would it do for you. you would be paying the fees just to have a .5 added to the end of the 1 on the grade. It is all about senimental reasons. I have a 68 Mantle that my father got me that is in about the same condition. I won't even grade it because I know I will never sell it.

tigerdean · April 22, 2010 10:05PM

I think that card is a PSA 2. No huge creases that I can see. If it is not a 2 it is a 1.5 without question. Some of the 1's I have seen look like they have been washed 100 times. With that said I dont think I would mess with it. To you it is priceless and it would be to me also but in reality, to the collecting community it is not worth much more than the grading fee. JMO

corvette1340 · April 22, 2010 10:28PM

I would do as the others have suggested and crack and resubmit. I think it will most likely 2.

WinPitcher · April 22, 2010 11:20PM

I think it is a 1 and will stay a 1.

Nice low grade card though.

Steve

twiley · April 23, 2010 12:43AM

Here is why I am asking.

1) the grader of death did this submission

2) imo the card I have looks way better then all the PSA 1 cards I have seen.

3) If I ever become dust and my kiddies decide to sell. I rather the card be in a higher grade holder if it deserves to be.

some 707 examples...

The card I have doesn't look as nice as this psa 2 example. But it surpasses this PSA 1 example IMO.

Leave it as is = 8
Crack resub = 4
review = 0

cardbender · April 23, 2010 1:10AM

Your card has character. It's a solid 1 all day. Sure your PSA 1 looks better that 707's, but why spend $5-10 on a review, plus shipping expenses, when you might only increase the value of it by $10-20? It's not worth it.

MantleMarisFordBerra · April 23, 2010 1:16AM

<< <i>Your card has character. It's a solid 1 all day. Sure your PSA 1 looks better that 707's, but why spend $5-10 on a review, plus shipping expenses, when you might only increase the value of it by $10-20? It's not worth it. >>

I agree. It's a nice looking card as is, don't sweat the label enjoy the card.

Ironmanfan · April 23, 2010 3:28AM

all kidding aside, is there such a thing as a 1.5?

bobbyw8469 · April 23, 2010 3:36AM

Yes....I got a 1.5 one time.

thehallmark · April 23, 2010 3:45AM

In this case, I think PSA got the grade right.

I think that unless the card is +$1000 card in its current condition, there is little to gain chasing a .5 bump. If you are a collector and you think your card was short-changed and the money doesn't mean much to you, have at it!

divecchia · April 23, 2010 3:58AM

If the card has sentimental value only I would leave as is.

Even if you are doing it for resale, I don't believe it's worth it. Here's why. The average VCP price only goes up by less than $20 from a PSA 1 to a PSA 3.

Average VCP PSA 1 price: $42.04
Average VCP PSA 2 price: $52.30
Average VCP PSA 3 price: $58.97

I know these prices are only the average and some PSA 3's have sold for much more, but those are for usually well centered or sharper cornered examples.

Not worth it based on these prices...Still a special card after all it was from Mom...

JMHO...Donato

bsidegrve · April 23, 2010 4:05AM

An upper end PSA 1 will sell for close to or at what an average PSA 2 sells for now, I don't see a 1.5 making a difference
I would keep it as a PSA 1 and the market will decide the value if its ever sold

(PSA 1)
$52.00 - High
$42.04 - Average
$24.50 - Low

(PSA 2)
$68.01 - High
$52.30 - Average
$43.00 - Low

Edit to add
Yeah, what divecchia said.....lol

toc1000 · April 23, 2010 5:29AM

You ought shamelessly play upon its Americana authenticity as a '1', as "having character", as "bicycle-spoke tested" - because it' probably was.

Always flaunt ugliness/baldness/Napoleonic-shortness because there's no fixing ugly/bald/dwarfism.

To use another a propos cliche:

It's a card only a mother could love...

minnesotahusker · April 23, 2010 5:35AM

<< <i>all kidding aside, is there such a thing as a 1.5? >>

Yes I subbed a 1959 Johnny Unitas that was my dad's and it got a 1.5 Fair. I thought it was probably a 1 or 2, but slabbed it nonetheless as it was my dad's and wanted it slabbed for sentimental reasons as well.

1966 Mickey Mantle worth reviewing to try and bet a .5 bump?

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