Question on this 1993 SP Jeter psa 10 card

twiley · April 15, 2010 1:18AM

I noticed this card is up for auction.

Its hard to see the cert but I believe it is this cert#

Link

What does "DMITRI YOUNG COLLECTION" mean?

I am hesitant on bidding since the seller has a rating of 98.8% as well.

BTW here is the ebay

AUCTION

TIA

Tim

burke23 · April 15, 2010 1:19AM

Well I will respond here then -
Dmitri Young (the baseball player) has a stunning collection and apparently gets all of his cards slabbed as part of his collection. Others probably know what his user ID is on ebay. I can tell you this probably isn't it unless Dmitri bought the Hangover used on ebay.
Sorry I can't be more help.
Pete

twiley · April 15, 2010 1:25AM

Thank you Pete.

I have a bad feeling about this seller. Even though he did sell a 54 Aaron RC PSA 8 for $3,850.00 and got positive FB.

Scam? Not a Scam?

Your thoughts on this

KatsCards · April 15, 2010 1:27AM

I didn't think Dmitri Young sold his cards. I thought it was one of the collections where once a PSA 10 went into it, it didn't come back out. Obviously that's not Dmitri Young selling the Jeter, so I'd stay far far away.

al032184 · April 15, 2010 1:28AM

For that kind of card, he should damn well be able to get a better picture.

.. And I thought it would say 'Young Collection' on the slab.

hhmag70 · April 15, 2010 1:32AM

The seller does not do alot of transactions, so the 1 negative has brought his overall score down. His DSR of 4.8, 4.8, 4.8, 4.9 make you wonder. His few items for sale are all decent cards though. Did you check the certs on any of his other items?

twiley · April 15, 2010 1:35AM

Well I can't say 100% that the cert I found is correct. It is very hard to see the cert# on that auction. I sent the seller a PM thru ebay asking for the cert# on the card. It looks like the cert is definitely 0X157303 where the X is looks like a 5 or a 6 but when I put in the # 8 thats when the D. Young variation on the card came up. 5 or 6 come up as non 93 SP jeter cards. LOL

burke23 · April 15, 2010 1:40AM

I do agree that I don't see Dmitri selling his cards either...perhaps the card and auction are legit, but the means through which the card was secured is not?

twiley · April 15, 2010 1:54AM

Well here are the red flags that make me hesitant.

1) the seller has 98.8% FB 1 Neg that says "I cannot give a positive feedback when the product was not shipped as listed." but it was left from a noob with only 6 FB

2) the auction is a 3 day auction. If I were going to sell the card I would use 9 day auction and a reserve. This makes me think the card might be stolen w/ the mind set of auction it quick take money and run.

3) The cert# is not clearly visible I ran thru all the cert and the only possible # it could be from the pic is cert# 08157303

4) The slab could be a counterfeit with a stolen cert#

Maybe I am just being paranoid. The thing is there are only 9 of these in this grade. 2 are up on registry and 4 others I have seen sell on other auction sites. so I have seen 6 of the 9 cards that exist. All certs I have seen have not been this cert so far.

hmmmm....

burke23 · April 15, 2010 2:08AM

Honestly - it might be worthwhile to alert PSA as I can only assume it is Dmitri's, and they may have a way to reach him.

al032184 · April 15, 2010 2:27AM

Again, if it were part of the Dmitri Young Collection, I think it would say that on the slab. Nothing about this auction looks good.
Young Collection

twiley · April 15, 2010 2:43AM

I agree everything looks bad. Thank you everyone you have been most helpful. I am leaning towards it being a low grade card or possible fake card in a fake slab with a stolen cert. I am still waiting to see if the seller responds to my pm asking for the cert#. I am not holding my breath. I am going to call PSA maybe they can shed a little light or at least be aware.

Tim

al032184 · April 15, 2010 2:45AM

He also has a 51 Bowman and 52 Topps Mantle

sportscardtheory · April 15, 2010 2:48AM

Doesn't that guy with all the fake Mantle PSAs always hold his cards this very same way? lol Match his thumbs up with old pics of the Mantle pics.

sportscardtheory · April 15, 2010 2:56AM

I love how these scam artists always have the best rookie cards. Jordans, Mantles, Aarons.

Yeah, okay.

These should all be reported. This person doesn't have any of these cards.

twiley · April 15, 2010 3:24AM

Just got off the phone with PSA. They can't do anything without a better scan. Could someone ask the seller for a better scan? I can't since I already asked for the cert. If I email the guy again it might make the seller aware he is going to get caught.

CNote · April 15, 2010 3:31AM

I asked for a scan, because it's an obvious fake and I'm interested to see what response (if any) I get

KatsCards · April 15, 2010 3:32AM

Personally, I think that slab looks tampered with as well at the top. I wonder if the label was swapped out for a fake one with a real cert #

twiley · April 15, 2010 5:46AM

<< <i>I asked for a scan, because it's an obvious fake and I'm interested to see what response (if any) I get >>

Cnote if the seller does give you a scan please share. I doubt I will get a reply on my cert request.

I ran thru all cert possibilities for the 2 numbers I can't see distinctly

These number I do know for sure are

0X1X7303

I tried every number 0-9 where the X is in the cert, ran every possible combination. There is only one possible # that matches a 93 SP Jeter PSA 10 and it is

08157303

As al032184 mentioned the label should have DMITRI YOUNG COLLECTION on the slab. My phone call to PSA confirmed that cert# 08157303 would have DMITRI YOUNG COLLECTION on the label. I think Kat is correct as well. It looks like the top of the slab has been tampered w/ and the label has been swapped. If you look at the picture of the front. It looks like the slab was pried open on the top right to make a label switch.

Grrr just another fake.

Back to patiently waiting for the real deal...

Tim

Rogermnj · April 15, 2010 5:57AM

I sold a jeter 10 for 25k when it was a pop2. crazy how its "only" worth 4-5k now..

shagrotn77 · April 15, 2010 7:50AM

I ran across this guy's auctions last night before I saw this thread and I decided it was best to stay away. The thing to sticks out to me is that all the scans or pictures have different backgrounds. Looks like your basic stolen pics scam. I could be wrong, but it's not worth the gamble IMO.

shagrotn77 · April 15, 2010 7:52AM

Also, Dmitri Young has sold cards before, but I've only heard of him doing it through auction houses. The seller's ID is definitely not Dmitri's (or, more accurately, the one his buying agent uses).

twiley · April 15, 2010 1:50PM

LOL All the auctions this seller had is now gone. I wonder what happened.

chris777 · April 15, 2010 2:05PM

Should we put him on our ebay block list?

hammered · April 15, 2010 2:15PM

I earlier reported his auctions as using stolen scans, based on an earlier thread started by OTW, who apparently owned one of the cards in the stolen scans. I'm sure others reported them too, and ebay correctly pulled them

jay0791 · April 16, 2010 1:00AM

I sold a 59 sparky anderson to dmitri 2 months ago.
He buys thru cbailey......some number I'm not sure

Cooptown · April 16, 2010 1:37AM

Anyone know Dmitri's ebay user ID?

Question on this 1993 SP Jeter psa 10 card

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