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frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Thoughts on this signature would be appreciated.


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Shane

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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    My only concern about the signature is that is seems to be a bit cross-generational. That being said, I lean toward good.
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  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
    shane, i dont like the S at all....

    why would he sign that?

    looks like the Fleer legacy Fakes to me...

    same forger?
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭
    I'm not entirely familiar with Upper Deck X cards by year, but the XPotential insert is either from 2008 or 2009. Even if legit, that is a 2001-2003 era Pujols signature. For 2008-2009 era, about the only thing in that signature close to accurate is the "u".

    The "s" is pretty much bad regardless of generation... and I can't say exactly when, but I'm thinking about 2004 Albert stopped bringing the "A" to a point at the top.

    FAKE
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    I think Pujols signature changes with the wind as can be seen with the vast majority of on-card autos distributed in the last 3 years. No two are the same.

    That signature looks nothing like a Legacy fake to me.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>I think Pujols signature changes with the wind as can be seen with the vast majority of on-card autos distributed in the last 3 years. No two are the same.

    That signature looks nothing like a Legacy fake to me. >>




    I agree. All the legacy fakes I have seen are angled a little and the lettering is more bunched.

    Clear Skies,
    Not a Pujols Expert
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • KneelKneel Posts: 160
    I wouldn't waste my time with that one...
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it looks anything like the Legacy fakes.

    I was thinking the same thing about "cross generation". That is an 08 card, but the signature looks identical to 2002-2004 signatures. I have a baseball from 2002, and the signature looks spot on (except for the "s" not coming down as far. His later signatures look more like my 2001 Topps Traded that I have. Here are pics of both.


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    Shane

  • KneelKneel Posts: 160
    As you can see from that Beckett Authenticated one, its done fast and not all neat like when he signs for the card companies.... The card you posted looks like somebody tried a little too hard to make it. Players tend to sign really fast when signing autographs in person, but they usually take their time when its cards done for the card companies.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As you can see from that Beckett Authenticated one, its done fast and not all neat like when he signs for the card companies.... The card you posted looks like somebody tried a little too hard to make it. Players tend to sign really fast when signing autographs in person, but they usually take their time when its cards done for the card companies. >>



    I have to respectfully disagree. I think the signatures for card companies are more hurried. They have dozens of signatures at a time to sign. This 2001 Topps Traded is a picture perfect modern signature that is not hurried. On his hurried signature, all you can read is the A and the P. Here is an example I found on Ebay. This is the sloppiest, most hurried signature I've seen of Pujols. It is authenticated by PSA DNA. His hurried signature looks more like this (though not quite that sloppy).


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    Shane

  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828 ✭
    Def not anything close to the Fleer Legacy fakes.

    I would purchase this one.
  • fandangofandango Posts: 2,622 ✭
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    i guess you guys are right....they look nothing alike.........................................
  • csmtampacsmtampa Posts: 1,828 ✭


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    i guess you guys are right....they look nothing alike......................................... >>



    Yea actually they dont. Keep on fandango
  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to respectfully disagree. I think the signatures for card companies are more hurried. They have dozens of signatures at a time to sign. This 2001 Topps Traded is a picture perfect modern signature that is not hurried. On his hurried signature, all you can read is the A and the P. Here is an example I found on Ebay. This is the sloppiest, most hurried signature I've seen of Pujols. It is authenticated by PSA DNA. His hurried signature looks more like this (though not quite that sloppy). >>



    I can add a little bit of personal experience to this discussion. A friend of mine worked for Topps and he gets some of the players to sign their cards in bulk for inserts during spring training...he has to actually witness the signatures. I actually got to do the 1998 AJ Hinch Bowman Certified signing in the A's clubhouse. He cranked out 800 signed cards in a little over an hour going through 6 pens. In his case his sig started to deteriorate a little for the last 200 but he didn't just blow it off and started taking a little more time but the guy was a machine and all in all the signatures were pretty consistent. My friend was pretty impressed he did that many in that time period. He said most of the players try to do "good" signings.

    Hinch was a nice guy, a rookie at the time. Didn't have much of a career in the bigs but now the manager of the D-Backs.

    It was a pretty cool experience.

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