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Ebay seller naturalbrnchillr getting away with so many 1/1 buy back fakes. Jordan, Albert Puljols, A

mexisarmexisar Posts: 394
in Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum
Buys cheap buybacks, removes the sticker and then places it on Super star cards and fakes the auto.

Like this Exquisite Michael Jordan

Purchased last month
08/09 EXQUISITE MICHAEL JORDAN BASE CARD # 23 26/125
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400096948672

resold the 26/125, Michael Jordan Exquisite buyback auto 1/1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280477621371

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Or the many Albert Puljos he continues to sell, just on the last 3 months he has sold around 1 a week, buys them for less than 10 dollars some even less than a dollar, then makes them fake 1/1 Buybacks and makes over $200 of profit
Are they so good of fakes that no buyer has given him a negative? Some of these buyers have high feedback
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=naturalbrnchillr&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller


Like Bought this last month
2002 BOWMAN CHROME #15 ALBERT PUJOLS
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380200642343

resold as
Albert Pujols 2002 Bowman Chrome buyback 1/1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270546097071
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buying history shows all these base cards he is buying up, then less than a month later become 1/1 auto buybacks
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=naturalbrnchillr&sort=3&page=1&rows=200&completed=1&all=1


Has sold all these the last 3 months
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Hank Aaron
has sold 3 of these within a month
Hank Aaron 1/1 buyback auto HR record holder, using same photo, and already got feedback for 2
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280465146943
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270528650200
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280472537543
Looking for in PSA graded
1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10

Basketball Autos
1992 Courtside Flashback
Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
Press Pass Legends

Comments

  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    omg o:
    My eBay Store =)

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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    Nice catch. I bet the authorities would love to get a hold of this guy. That is a felony isn't it? Fraudulent Autos is a serious thing I would assume.
  • brian26brian26 Posts: 826
    The mind-blowing aspect of this is that there are several guys buying these cards with feedback in the 1000's. How in the world can they not see that these are fakes?

  • leathtechleathtech Posts: 3,191 ✭
    I think card companies should take some blame for this... they produce all the special 1/1 cards like they are water - they produce a blue, red, black, and purple version and call everything 1/1. No way am I saying what the seller is doing is legal, ethical, or correct but card companies have made it easy for crooks like this to profit! It's almost impossible to track all the real versions of cards today!
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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    Ummm...

    Seems like your research is sound. Have you passed it on to EBay?
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    what a scum bag, i hope this seller gets nailed...

    one buyer pointed out the seller is shipping from the middle east not USA as listed.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fine job!
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    Again, have you passed this info on to anyone or "only" posted it here. I don't man to question you, but unless someone takes this info to the proper authorities, then all that happens is that this small (and fairly experienced) segment of the population is the only one aware of it.
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    wats crazy is the A on Pujols auto is different. I am not auto eggspurt by any means but even I can see they are inconstant. Some "A"s have a loop and others have a triangle to them. I also bet this guy holds ppls feedback hostage as well. They need to lock this guy up and throw away the key...
  • bhelserbhelser Posts: 667
    I don't know autos very well....but is the Aaron auto fake? I know (one of) the purchaser of the Aaron....is it NOT legit? image
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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭


    << <i>I don't know autos very well....but is the Aaron auto fake? I know (one of) the purchaser of the Aaron....is it NOT legit? image >>



    I dont know autos either but if you view the guy's feedback on ebay he sold more then 1 aaron 1/1 auto. Same card sold on 2 auctions.

    This would lead me to believe the auto is a fake as well but I am no eggspurt on autos

    Auction 1


    Auction 2
  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    Man, that is dirty pool!
  • mexisarmexisar Posts: 394


    << <i>Again, have you passed this info on to anyone or "only" posted it here. I don't man to question you, but unless someone takes this info to the proper authorities, then all that happens is that this small (and fairly experienced) segment of the population is the only one aware of it. >>

    the thing is who is that "anyone", as long as ebay gets the fees do they really care? Maybe if the buyers are contacted and they get their credit cards involved ebay will listen?
    Looking for in PSA graded
    1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
    2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
    3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10

    Basketball Autos
    1992 Courtside Flashback
    Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
    2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
    UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
    2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
    Press Pass Legends
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Again, have you passed this info on to anyone or "only" posted it here. I don't man to question you, but unless someone takes this info to the proper authorities, then all that happens is that this small (and fairly experienced) segment of the population is the only one aware of it. >>

    the thing is who is that "anyone", as long as ebay gets the fees do they really care? Maybe if the buyers are contacted and they get their credit cards involved ebay will listen? >>



    You have to at least start with Ebay. No way that I know of to contact the buyers directly, although one guy in this thread seems to know one of them. Gotta follow up or he keeps doing it.
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
    ----------------------

    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    If this guy is in Israel then the counterfeiting laws might not effect him? I don't know. I know with music bootlegs back in the day they used to come Italy because the bootlegs were not considered illegal in Italy.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>If this guy is in Israel then the counterfeiting laws might not effect him? I don't know. I know with music bootlegs back in the day they used to come Italy because the bootlegs were not considered illegal in Italy. >>



    Correct, and my closet is proof of that "Italian connection"...
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
    ----------------------

    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    Another reason to not buy autograph stuff unless it is signed in front of you.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Good case!!!

    The file should be delivered to Trust & Safety at EBAY.
    Sadly, T&S is essentially a failed department that does
    nothing but protect buyers and sellers that engage in
    criminal activities.

    Make hardcopies and send cert mail to:

    EBAY, Inc.
    Trust & Safety Dept.
    Fraud Investigations
    2145 Hamilton Avenue
    San Jose, CA 95125

    EBAY, Inc.
    Legal Dept.
    Fraud Investigations
    2145 Hamilton Avenue
    San Jose, CA 95125

    Include ALL of your contact info in the mailings.

    Your cover letter should demand that the criminal's
    account be suspended pending an investigation. The
    letter should ONLY be one-page; tell your story and
    make your demand succinctly. Include all pictures and
    copies of listings.


    If they fail to act FAST, FAX the file to the San Jose BBB.
    The complaint should state that EBAY has been on notice
    of the fraud and failed to act to protect consumers.

    If the carp is being shipped from a foreign country, send
    the file to the DC embassy of the country. (Notify EBAY
    that the "item location" in the listings is fraudulent. Use
    the report item link in the listing for this.)

    PayPal should also get a copy of the file.

    Send you packet to Michael O'Keefe at the New York
    Daily News. (I don't like him, but he will usually act if
    it will make him famous.) If there is a mideast connection,
    maybe he will go with a headline like:

    "Mideast Terror Funded By Fake Sports Cards On EBAY"

    Send the full packet to the TV stations in the seller's US-address
    location.

    Send the packet to the LEOs in that town.

    Send the packet to the SF office of the FBI. (Note the mideast
    connection to the criminal enterprise. Give a high-estimate of
    the money value of the enterprise.)

    File a report at www.ic3.gov.

    ////////////////////////

    There is much more you can do to light fires.

    BUT, the bottom line is that EBAY does NOT care that criminals -
    buyers and sellers - are running rampant on the site. They ONLY
    care about collecting fees.

    Numerous Fortune 500 companies now have internal security
    forces that deal only with "the largest stolen-goods fencing
    enterprise in the history of the world." Their success is marginal.

    //////////////////////////

    March 15 Listing Counts

    eBay 44,247,167 -254737 (This number will soon sail past 50M; on its way to 75M+)

    eCrater 3,054,191 +2212

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  • mexisarmexisar Posts: 394
    I would think a victim would have to file a case like that?


    One buyer has updated his feedback
    http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=naturalbrnchillr&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller
    "Criminal, sells fake autographs.Buyers beware.Needs to go to jail. Check JSA"
    Looking for in PSA graded
    1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
    2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
    3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10

    Basketball Autos
    1992 Courtside Flashback
    Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
    2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
    UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
    2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
    Press Pass Legends
  • BlacklabelsocietyBlacklabelsociety Posts: 1,033


    << <i>Nice catch. I bet the authorities would love to get a hold of this guy. That is a felony isn't it? Fraudulent Autos is a serious thing I would assume. >>



    75-85% of autographs are fake on the internet. Yet people still buy these fakes by the thousands everyday. its a joke.
  • Adenhart34Adenhart34 Posts: 90
    The Jordan is already numbered so why would anyone think it is a 1/1 if Upper Deck numbered it already? Odd...


    Rick
    Buying or trading for Cubs, Angels autos and anything related to Nick Adenhart! ****RIP NA 34****
  • mexisarmexisar Posts: 394


    << <i>The Jordan is already numbered so why would anyone think it is a 1/1 if Upper Deck numbered it already? Odd...


    Rick >>

    The Jordan card was released as a serial numbered base card and he recently bought it that way.
    He gets a auto buyback hologram from a cheap player then places it on the back of the fake Jordan.
    Then basically claims UD re-released(buyback) the Jordan as a 1/1 auto.


    Looking for in PSA graded
    1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
    2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
    3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10

    Basketball Autos
    1992 Courtside Flashback
    Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
    2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
    UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
    2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
    Press Pass Legends
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Nice catch. I bet the authorities would love to get a hold of this guy. That is a felony isn't it? Fraudulent Autos is a serious thing I would assume. >>



    75-85% of autographs are fake on the internet. Yet people still buy these fakes by the thousands everyday. its a joke. >>



    Such might be a true statement, if talking about marque players only. Montana's, Jordan's, Tiger's, Pujols, et al. However as a blanket statement I think that is completely false. The pack inserted autos alone make up more then 15% of today's signature's on the market.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    Yeah but the pack inserted autos have had these issues

    1. Friends and Family members signing the cards
    2. Fake autos being bought and put on cards.

    To say 100% of all pack inserted autos are real is another fallacy.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • 1989FleerBillRipkencollector1989FleerBillRipkencollector Posts: 4,590
    naturalbrnchillr( 560) Not a registered user

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