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No one may know anything about this, but I have this strange card that measures 2.25" by 4.25" that has rounded corners and a blank back. Anyone know what it is?

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Collecting Tony Conigliaro

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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    looks 1950-60s to me


    Here is a good place to start.....

    Vintage Non-Sport Card Chat Board
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    ha ha

    I went and look at the board and you already posted something, cool image

    good luck
  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a 70 or 71 Topps Super BB or FB.
    Kiss me once, shame on you.
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One response was it resembled the early 50s Quaker Oats cards - they do kinda look like that.

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    Mike
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Likely a British card from between 1955 and 1975.

    Likely part of a "fighting men" set, or a "wars and conflicts" set.


    dutymon should know.

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    wiki..

    Choice of the "Mighty Antar" name

    The name "Antar" was a reference to Antar Ibn Shadded, a pre-Islamic Arab poet-warrior. The intended lead customer for the "Mighty Antar" was the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, previously the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, and this was a deliberate move to flatter the customer.

    In 1951, the first Antars entered British Army service.

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    The Antar site:


    Brit Trucks

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  • TonyCTonyC Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭
    Wow, good observation.
    Collecting Tony Conigliaro


  • << <i>Likely a British card from between 1955 and 1975.

    Likely part of a "fighting men" set, or a "wars and conflicts" set.


    dutymon should know.

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    wiki..

    Choice of the "Mighty Antar" name

    The name "Antar" was a reference to Antar Ibn Shadded, a pre-Islamic Arab poet-warrior. The intended lead customer for the "Mighty Antar" was the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, previously the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, and this was a deliberate move to flatter the customer.

    In 1951, the first Antars entered British Army service.

    .......

    The Antar site:


    Brit Trucks

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    Afternoon,
    Actually, though I do appreciate the kudo's, this is not familiar to me, though I do have some vague memory of a set like this. I think if anybody is close, it would be Storm, with one exception, MP designation is US Military I believe, so don't think that would be on a British card. More likely one of the obscure card manufacturers in the US during the 50's it would look to me. There are hundreds of regional issues and oddball Non Sports Candy company card sets from this era, I discover new ones every week. Also could have been given to the Kids of Oil Company employees in the Mid East, same time period, as we had major prescence and did most of the Oil development and exploration in the 1940's through the 1970's.

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    Brits and sundry other countries use the "MP" designation on gear and uniforms.

    The Q is why is the MP running from a British vehicle?

    Was the vehicle hijacked?

    Is the MP guarding an oil installation?

    Is the MP the good guy, or the bad guy?



    This is like a test for fiction writers: What is happening in this picture?

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    The British had MP's in Gibraltar (north end of african continent)... and this is most likely a British card.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    My guess is that it is NOT a U.S. issue. Keep in mind that most pre-1965 issues rarely depicted African-American characters in any role of significance and typically used such depictions as fodder for humiliation and insult. A simple example is the 1963 Gad Fun Card #46 of the Walker brothers and mention of Jackie Robinson...

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    "...Keep in mind that most pre-1965 issues rarely depicted African-American characters in any role of significance and typically used such depictions as fodder for humiliation and insult...."

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    Quite true.

    But, if the MP is serving in an African-country's military, he is meant
    to be shown as a savage and cowardly villain.

    The absence of the white-belt and white-holster combo may mean
    the MP does not depict a Brit soldier. He would have a sidearm, if
    he was a Brit standing guard at a high-value post.

    Maybe the good guys are actually riding in the truck.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    The British used Antar trucks for tank transportation, perhaps that is part of a tank barrel shown above the truck?
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The British used Antar trucks for tank transportation, perhaps that is part of a tank barrel shown above the truck? >>



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    I thought so too, but it could only be if the artist was taking
    LOTS of license.

    There is MUCH room between the Antar hookup and the trailer
    that the tanks are chained to.

    None of the suspected era's tank-barrels were anywhere near
    long enough to protrude over the cab.



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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    From October 1952 to December 1959, Kenya was under a state of emergency arising from the Mau Mau rebellion against British rule.

    "The Mau Mau Uprising of 1952 to 1960 was an insurgency by Kenyans against British colonial rule. The core of the resistance was formed by members of the Kikuyu ethnic group, along with smaller numbers of Embu and Meru. The uprising failed militarily, though it hastened Kenyan independence and motivated Africans in other countries to fight against colonial rule. It created a rift between the white colonial community in Kenya and the Home Office in London that set the stage for Kenyan independence in 1963. It is sometimes called the Mau Mau Rebellion or the Mau Mau Revolt, and, in official documents, the Kenya Emergency." -Wiki

    Wikipedia also lists as being on the British Side ... 10,000 regular troops (Africans and Europeans) 21,000 police, 25,000 home guard

    Britain would have had MP's there and the dates also match this type of Antar. My guess is it's a card from a set of British Military "Successes" (they killed the revolt, but it eventually led to Kenyan independance), unfortunately haven't located the set yet...

  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    "...My guess is it's a card from a set of British Military "Successes" ..."

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    And, the search continues.

    Mmm bop ba mau mau.
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  • TonyCTonyC Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭
    I've got to say, I'm impressed with how far you guys have gotten on this; I really appreciate it.

    One thing I do have to add is that earlier I was focusing on the armband, and I concluded that it was a WWII era United States MP armband (they apparently changed to white on black later) and this site has pictures of what the armbands of the different nations looked like. Link On the same site, this one shows what the British MP bands looked like around WWII.

    This site had a bunch of pictures of US MP armbands through the years, and it says armbands were branch specific, and the armband for Army MPs around WWII were the white on blue. Text

    I also tried finding information on the white helmet, but that was fairly fruitless for me.

    I guess this information just does more to raise questions.
    Collecting Tony Conigliaro
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