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Big EBAY Stores Annoucement Coming!

That SUCKS!!!!

The official annoucement will be coming next week... from what I heard from an ebay rep., the word is that ebay will be doing away with stores and switching to FP listings instead. He wouldn't directly 100% confirm this info, but hinted in all directions that this was the case... Fee structures to be based on the store subscription and the amount of store items you have for sale...

I can only cross my fingers and hope ebay doesn't make this mistake.

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  • So they are doing away with stores but there is going to be some type of store subscription? I'm not sure what that means!?I guess we'll have to see!
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    ebay is gung-ho about making significantly more money than the previous year...they see this as a sign that they are doing well...fees go up each year
  • Well someone spoke with an ebay rep. She said the UK & AU store fee structure is what we can expect here soon. SIF as we know it will be gone in April.ALL listings will either be auctions or fixed priced, and ALL listings will show up in core. She wouldn't divulge anything about the new fee structure. About the only thing she would say is that the fee structure will be good for power sellers that list alot of inventory.

    There will be an announcement on the 26th about changes.

    Here is a link to the UK site regarding the store (shop) fees, etc. I couldn't remember the specifics either.

    LINK
  • I've been away from ebay for a year and half - best thing I ever did. no more fees, no more headaches ...

  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Q4 09 Transcript


    Depending on what you sell and in what quantity, the "rebalancing"
    might benefit you.

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    Folks who need a store might consider trying ecrater.com.

    More labor, usually higher profits, and NO hassles.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've been away from ebay for a year and half - best thing I ever did. no more fees, no more headaches ... >>



    Me too. I've got a couple thousand cards(graded) that I would love to sell. I'm using them for trades , mostly.

    Is Ebay a mirror of the policies of the "Elites" or what ? Bad decisions , rooted in bad thinking , almost always ends up bad.
    " In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    Storm - I'm too lazy to read a conference call transcript on a Friday night. Do you have a "cliff notes" like summary of what it means to a seller of collectibles?
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    FVF are still the killer for me. As long as they don't raise those, I can handle a $35 or so raise in the subscription fee coupled with a penny or two raise in the listing fees. If they both increase significantly...I'll have to think about it.

    It would be nice if they could reward sellers who actually sell a high percentage of the stuff they list instead of only rewarding those who list a lot of crap and move a tiny percent of it every month.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Storm - I'm too lazy to read a conference call transcript on a Friday night. Do you have a "cliff notes" like summary of what it means to a seller of collectibles? >>



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    It's pretty complicated.

    Ina has a "fair" HLN version, but it really does not hit the nail terribly perfectly.


    Here it is:

    eBay CEO Tells Analysts Company Will Rebalance U.S. Marketplace

    By Ina Steiner

    AuctionBytes.com

    January 21, 2010

    AuctionBytes: eBay CEO Tells Analysts Company Will Rebalance U.S. Marketplace

    eBay hosted a call Wednesday with Wall Street analysts, who had a chance to ask eBay CEO John Donahoe and CFO Bob Swan questions after their presentations following the release of Q4-2009 earnings. Mr. Donahoe spoke several times about rebalancing the U.S. marketplace as it had done in Europe, indicating the company would adjust its fee structure on eBay.com.

    Mr. Donahoe covered some of the services and trends at eBay in his presentation, including:

    PayPal performance
    Progress at eBay Marketplaces
    International Marketplaces performance
    Fashion Vault
    Trusted marketplace, Top Rated Sellers
    Technology and Mobile
    StubHub
    Classifieds

    Mr. Donahoe said exports from Chinese sellers doubled in Q4 to over 15 million units. And, "in Europe, we have successfully transformed our seller value proposition and business model over the past 18 months. By offering lower insertion fees to our sellers, we have almost doubled the number of live listings, a significant increase in selection. We plan to adopt similar best practices in the U.S. in early 2010."

    In North America, eBay experienced early success with its Fashion Vault pilots. "Popular items sold out in hours and drove strong incremental sales for our sellers," he said.

    Later, in answering a question from an analyst, Mr. Donahoe said that in Germany and the UK, eBay could differentiate business sellers from consumer sellers, unlike in the United States, and so it was able to put in place different pricing for businesses versus consumers. "We particularly lowered insertion fees on fixed price."

    He went on to say, "So I think what we&#146;ll do in 2010 is take some of the learnings that we generated outside the U.S. and apply them as appropriate and as tailored to the U.S. market. I think we feel we've proven out some of these things outside the U.S. and they will apply inside the U.S."

    More on Changes to Fees

    In answering a question about take-rates, John Donahoe said eBay made significant changes in rebalancing front-end versus back-end fees. He said eBay was about 70/30 front-end to back-end since the beginning of 2008, and, "today, going into 2010, eBay is more 30/70: 30% front-end, 70% back-end." He said that those changes align eBay's incentives with those of its sellers: "If they don't succeed in selling, we don't succeed in collecting fees."

    He again spoke about rebalancing the U.S. marketplace, stating that eBay would make a few more changes in 2010 that, "I think have to do with taking the learnings from Europe and applying them in the U.S. about rebalancing."

    Initiatives in 2010

    John Donahoe talked about initiatives in 2010. He said he was pleased with where eBay was as it entered the new year, said, "I love all my children, not just one, so I will list three things that I am looking forward to in 2010 in the marketplace business."

    Enhanced buyer protection.

    Value and selection with pricing and continued improvement in search. ("You recall Mark Carges talking about our approach to technology in search at our Analyst Day. We are absolutely becoming a more technology-driven company, and our search team is increasingly top notch.")

    User experience. ("I think what is going to be fun about 2010 is you're going to see some real differences in the eBay user experience. You will see this most notably in Clothing, Shoes & Accessories about mid-year where the eBay experience, as you know it, will look very different, and you'll see us taking advantage of how we bring the unique inventory we have to buyers in some new and creative ways.")

    High Volume Sellers

    An analyst asked Mr. Donahoe about mobile commerce and exclusive brands. He said mobile was at an inflection point, and said, "we intend to be all over it." In terms of the exclusive inventory, he said eBay's Marketplaces' seller team was out talking with several brands and several people that have inventory.

    "I think 2009 was the year of proving we could move high volume SKUs in very short periods of time, and I think we've done that, and so there are certainly a growing number of people who want to talk about distributing on eBay. And in some cases, that will be exclusive and others it won't, but we feel poised to take advantage of this, I'll call it the Private Sales trend, where retailers are looking to get rid of high quality branded goods in quick and efficient ways online."

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>FVF are still the killer for me. As long as they don't raise those, I can handle a $35 or so raise in the subscription fee coupled with a penny or two raise in the listing fees. If they both increase significantly...I'll have to think about it.

    It would be nice if they could reward sellers who actually sell a high percentage of the stuff they list instead of only rewarding those who list a lot of crap and move a tiny percent of it every month. >>



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    You are likely to get a combo of lower insertion fees AND higher FVFs.

    Eventually, could be years out, most/all listings will be "free" AND the FVFs
    will be VERY high.

    .......

    JD's rebalancing is looking for pricey items that sell in quantities large
    enough to justify "free" listings. Collectibles don't fit that profile.

    But, he had some "neutral" comments about collectible auctions. He
    definitely does not want to get rid of them; even tho they don't bring
    much money.

    He also noted that "casual sellers" exist. He did not note how he
    could make EBAY a palatable experience for them, but did not say
    they should die.

    ..............

    In reading the financials it is pretty obvious that if JD did not have PayPal,
    he would have pretty near JACK.

    ...........

    His comment that there appears to be "room" for a number of players
    is interesting. It lets AMZN know that he is not planning to admit that
    he can be run off. BUT, it might encourage GOOG/YHOO/MSFT to do
    something stupid that would benefit us all.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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