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coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Are cameos common for the shilling, Half crown and Florin?

I ask because it seems that the quality of Canadian issues and South African issues for this time period may actually be better than is seen for UK coinage

Any thoughts? Would there be a premium for GB 53 cameo issues?

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  • canadacolornutcanadacolornut Posts: 995 ✭
    I don't know but would be interested to learn the answer.

    I've recently decided to get into Elizabeth proof shillings and am finding not so easy as I thought it would be.

    What spurred my interest was my two years in England in the early 50's, being witness to Elizabeth's coronation
    parade; being dunked in the Trafalgar Square fountain as whip lash off a drunken conga line and the fact that
    I bought a set of Coronation coins for next to nothing that are now worth ABSOLUTELY nothing since they
    were encased in plastic for more than 50 years.

    Rewinding.......:+)
    No,no- the kids and the cat are all right honey.
    It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not much without TPG, esp PCGS if you can get a 66 or better yet a 67. Many were not cameo, but a good number are....
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • RobPRobP Posts: 483 ✭✭


    << <i>Are cameos common for the shilling, Half crown and Florin?

    I ask because it seems that the quality of Canadian issues and South African issues for this time period may actually be better than is seen for UK coinage

    Any thoughts? Would there be a premium for GB 53 cameo issues? >>


    The 1953 sets would not normally have cameo portraits with a sandblasted frosted bust. The fields would be brilliant as expected and the bust would have a smooth texture to the surface, but not the velvet of a cameo. A cameo portrait would presumably have a premium.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would suspect that TPG would be needed for the premium- I will look to see if any proof cameos have been graded by PCGS and _ _ _

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  • canadacolornutcanadacolornut Posts: 995 ✭
    The cameos of course would be very early strikings off fresh dies and would definitely command a premium-from
    collectors in this country at least.

    If anyone doesn't believe that, just try me image
    No,no- the kids and the cat are all right honey.
    It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
  • RobPRobP Posts: 483 ✭✭
    Here is a comparison of three EII shillings I have posted elsewhere. Currency, 1953 proof and VIP proof - done on a scanner, so the quality isn't the best, but it clearly shows the difference you can expect between the polished fields, frosted bust and regular strikes. Link
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay- I checked the PCGS pop- there is 1 1953 PR64 DC Florin graded and 3 or 4 shillings with the highest PR63 CAM

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, that is the point as not many have been graded. I have seen quite a number, though not the majority (florins, shillings, etc.).
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    agreed- the pop report is not an indication of whether the coin is scarce

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  • GazzaGazza Posts: 543
    The mintage was 40,000 sets but saying that they are not uncommon, usually 2-5 sets on ebay at any one time.Or you can buy a new set direct from the Royal mint, I don't know if these are from the original 40,000 or restrikes. In the original sets the copper will almost always be toned by now although as will everything ther may be a few exceptions.
  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    Here's a 1953 Shilling in PCGS PR64CAM: eBay
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting timing and should be worth watching

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • canadacolornutcanadacolornut Posts: 995 ✭
    If the interest is there; this would be the time to go through a lot of 1953 proof sets, pluck the gems and get them certified.

    Brits are in a better position to do this since they can go through them in dealer show rooms.

    The population, however, is very high and the market comparatively thin.

    Might take a while to make it worth while as an investment....
    No,no- the kids and the cat are all right honey.
    It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
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