1989 fleer Randy Johnson Black Background?

spazzy · December 28, 2009 5:08AM

Just picked up a lot of PSA cards and 1 was a 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson black background. Are they rare? What are they worth? Thanks

mikeschmidt · December 28, 2009 5:15AM

Very, very common. The 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson cards with a full Marlboro ad billboard are quite valuable...yours is the common variety.

lsutigers1973 · December 28, 2009 5:19AM

I have about 100 of the RJ's with the black background. There are a few variations that have the black box and total blackout but PSA only recognizes the full blackout, ad partially obscured and full ad.

Here's a few variations to gaze upon:

hookem · December 28, 2009 5:50AM

<< I have about 100 of the RJ's with the black background. There are a few variations that have the black box and total blackout but PSA only recognizes the full blackout, ad partially obscured and full ad.

Here's a few variations to gaze upon:

>>

Would you be interested in trading one of the Marlboro versions?

sportscardtheory · December 28, 2009 5:52AM

I wish more of the variations were recognized. I have about 6 different versions. The guy is a Hall of Famer, so it's not like it's some common. Some are very rare compared to the other variations.

BugOnTheRug · December 28, 2009 5:55AM

I have the one where he is smoking a cigar. How rare is this variation?

jeffcbay · December 28, 2009 5:57AM

I have one where he's smoking a cigar and somebody wrote "Rick Face" on the side of it.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · December 28, 2009 5:58AM

Here's another Marlboro (not mine) that's pretty hard to get. Heard of it and never knew it existed until my buddy picked one up from ebay. All the ones I see are darker. Photo was not altered.

It's in this Thread 2nd pic down.

lsutigers1973 · December 28, 2009 6:35AM

<< Would you be interested in trading one of the Marlboro versions? >>

PM me an offer

lsutigers1973 · December 28, 2009 6:36AM

To answer the value question, it will sell on eBay for about $3 dlvd.

hookem · December 28, 2009 6:41AM

<< 

<< Would you be interested in trading one of the Marlboro versions? >>

PM me an offer >>

PM Sent

mtcards · December 28, 2009 8:02AM

I have been digging around some old cello boxes I opened and have found several variations.

I have the following

Black box
Partial black box
Partial red box
Light red box, Marlboro readable
Marlboro clearly shown

Any others???

richtree · December 28, 2009 8:14AM

I have 2 pretty clear Randy Marlborlo's variations if anyone has interest PM me .

MeteoriteGuy · December 28, 2009 5:00PM

I have one non black box variation...thought I would share also.

Allen · December 28, 2009 5:13PM

STOLEN FROM EBAY REVIEW:

This guide describes the several different variations of the 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson #381.

1. The first printing of the card shows a red and white Marlboro billboard, complete with Marlboro man, behind Randy's left ear in the background.

2. The second printing still has the entire billboard visible, but dark, reddish shading/shadowing covers Marlboro and the red and white of the sign. Very noticable next to the first printing. Entire sign is still COMPLETELY visible despite shading.

3. The next version still has the sign visible, but there's a black line through the middle of the word Marlboro with the tops of all letters in Marlboro still clearly visible.(you can still tell the sign says Marlboro)

4. This version still shows the red and white of the sign, but there is a black blob where the word Marlboro once was, no longer showing tops of letters.

5. The Marlboro sign is completely gone, but a black rectangle, exactly in the shape of the Marlboro billboard, CLEARLY sticks out from the rest of the black background.

6. The most common "corrected" version. There is absolutely no trace of the Marlboro sign ever being there at all.

I have seen all for sale on Ebay at one point in time or another. I have personally opened 10+ boxes that included the full, obscene Ripken FFace error that had the fully "corrected" Randy Johnson card. We all know how early they pulled the Ripken which shows in comparison how scarce all of the different Johnson versions really are.

lsutigers1973 · December 29, 2009 12:04AM

<< 1. The first printing of the card shows a red and white Marlboro billboard, complete with Marlboro man, behind Randy's left ear in the background.

2. The second printing still has the entire billboard visible, but dark, reddish shading/shadowing covers Marlboro and the red and white of the sign. Very noticable next to the first printing. Entire sign is still COMPLETELY visible despite shading. >>

As of now, PSA only recognizes both of these as "Marlboro Ad on Scoreboard"

One that eBay does not mention in it's review, unless I just misread it, is the top left one in the scan below. The ad is covered with the black box except for a small circle in the top middle of the sign that exposes part of the word "Marlboro".

MeteoriteGuy · December 29, 2009 12:07AM

There is also one like mine, which appears to be Bills bottom left, but shows the Marlboro man much clearer.

1989 fleer Randy Johnson Black Background?

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