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Could Somebody Explain What Happened to the Back of this Sheet?

Good Morning,
This sheet in Auction # 190360591965 looks to be legit, I have only seen a couple others, ever (Never with a printing defect), and by the Front would have brought probably $3-5 K conservatively. But with the Double Printing? or whatever printing defect it is, I now have no idea what it will fetch, but still think over a grand.
Seller has it here in Colorado, in the Denver area, and said I could inspect it in person, so this is another reason I believe it is real.
Any ideas, comments?
Thanks
Neil
Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!

Comments

  • Could have sat on a newspaper for a long time?

    Don't know, interesting auction.

    Dave
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  • Definitely double printed on the back about 1 inch apart. Probably why the sheet was originally pulled out before it was cut.
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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    just looks like the back was stamped with the front images? very cool piece regardless of condition, if you enjoy that set, also doesn't seem to be a lot of bid activity at the moment.
  • Good day,
    After further study of the pictures, two other things confuse the issue, the color on the front of the sheet is way to light (Sun Bleaching?), or it almost looks like all the colors weren't added originally. The second thing, and actually this may be the answer to the back, the way the numbers are placed, two of the same number next to each other, the sheet may have been double stamped (Printed), on the back, with the second stamping only moving part of the way through a card?

    ???
    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • Dunno what happened but I have 2, 4 card panels that are double prined on the front.And I can't afford this one either.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    looks like a printers make ready sheet. They just fire thru the same sheet to get the press up to speed before they get one right and have the client sign off on it. I've got '48 and '49 Bowman sheets like this, and have seen '56 Topps. Typically they get tossed, because it's just another job to the pressman, but gold to us, especially 70+ years later

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...looks like a printers make ready sheet. ..."

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    Could well be so.

    Paying $1K for that junk would require the buyer to find
    an even bigger sucker in order to make any money.

    It is a fun wall-decoration, but not much more.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.


  • << <i>"...looks like a printers make ready sheet. ..."

    ////////////////////

    Could well be so.

    Paying $1K for that junk would require the buyer to find
    an even bigger sucker in order to make any money.

    It is a fun wall-decoration, but not much more. >>



    Storm,

    Even though I voted for ya for Poster of the Year, this is one you got wrong. Not even close to Junk. The amount of sheets that exist from this, The 1938 Gum Inc. Horrors Of War sets, one of the most collected Non Sport Issues ever, make even this Sheet worth Gold, printers ready or whatever it is. I believe this is exactly the 4th sheet I have ever seen for this set. One sold at one of the Major Auction houses pretty beat up for something like $3-4 grand a few years back.
    Mark my words, (And watch this auction), if it goes for less than $500 it is a steal, and I expect it to reach a grand easy.

    Neilimage
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    "...even this Sheet worth Gold, printers ready or whatever it is. I believe this is exactly the 4th sheet I have ever seen for this set. One sold at one of the Major Auction houses pretty beat up for something like $3-4 grand a few years back. Mark my words, (And watch this auction), if it goes for less than $500 it is a steal, and I expect it to reach a grand easy...."

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    If it is a make-ready, it has VERY little "value" compared to the
    other sheets you cite.

    As a decorative memento of the set, it will likely often attract
    some buyers, but it is hardly an item that warrants a large
    investment.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Desirabel piece by the advanced nonsport colloector...

    Like this one obviously is...... Most uncut sheets from that era will be printers scrap (screwups or practice sheets). It is like most of the early Bowman doubleprinted back sheets and some 1941 PlayBall wrongbacks

    Often retrieved from the dumpster or taken home by an employee.


    The front color could be from 70+ years of display in a sunny room


  • << <i>"...even this Sheet worth Gold, printers ready or whatever it is. I believe this is exactly the 4th sheet I have ever seen for this set. One sold at one of the Major Auction houses pretty beat up for something like $3-4 grand a few years back. Mark my words, (And watch this auction), if it goes for less than $500 it is a steal, and I expect it to reach a grand easy...."

    //////////////////

    If it is a make-ready, it has VERY little "value" compared to the
    other sheets you cite.

    As a decorative memento of the set, it will likely often attract
    some buyers, but it is hardly an item that warrants a large
    investment. >>



    OK,
    Auction ends in 4 days...We'll see how it shakes out!

    Neilimage
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    15 Bidders

    25 Bids

    Buyer: markfinn ( 5760)

    Sale Price $310.55

    ................

    I am still surprised it went for that much.

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  • Morning Storm,
    And I am surprised it went for that little, Year/Year and Half ago, it would have been a grand. But I was wrong, you were closer to actual.
    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
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