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Musial?

bassnbud8bassnbud8 Posts: 66
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Can anyone tell me why there isnt a reg. issue Topps Musial from 52-58?

THanks!

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  • BobbyVCPBobbyVCP Posts: 755 ✭
    He wanted more money from Topps and they would not pay him.
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Same reason there's no Maury Wills Topps card until 1967.....

    Topps didn't offer 'em enough money.

    In football, similar can be said about Joe Namath, Lynn Swann and Earl Campbell...their cards ended prematurely due to them asking for more money than Topps was willing to pay.


    Steve
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    Greed
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  • bassnbud8bassnbud8 Posts: 66
    cool, thanks guys!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Not sure if I'd say it was greed, especially since I was not probably even born yet.

    He is on some regional issues.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    One other point, he is on some Bowman issues 1952 and 3 maybe even 4 so he may not have been able to be on a Topps card for

    those years.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One other point, he is on some Bowman issues 1952 and 3 maybe even 4 so he may not have been able to be on a Topps card for

    those years.


    Steve >>




    He was on Bowman cards in 1948, 1949, 1952 and 1953. Topps didn't get him until 1958 (and then only on an All-Star card). If it had been a simple matter of Bowman owning his rights, why didn't Topps make cards of him in 1956 and 1957, since Bowman's last set was in 1955? Plus, if Bowman had owned his rights, why didn't they issue cards of him in 1950, 1951, 1954 and 1955?


    Steve
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I said those years Steve, Why he was not on the years you state I have no idea.

    Perhaps he was commited to those regional issues?

    If I recall we had a thread regarding this last year and some said in 1950 he was committed to wheaties.

    I just thought it was pretty presumptious to claim 'greed' was the reason when the fact remains we really have no idea.

    What we have is opinion. Mine is he was commited to other sets during those years. At least that is what I recall from previous

    threads. I could be dead wrong too.

    Mantle and Williams are two other stars from the era not in both sets too.


    Perhaps greed is the reason all 3 are not in all sets in all years.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • VintageCardLoverVintageCardLover Posts: 584 ✭
    greed? no.
    topps= cheap bastiges.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Guys I found this on another forums archives. Musial was not in certain sets because;

    Musial- he had an exclusive contract with Rawlings, preventing him from appearing on any major issues. Rawlings was free to license him out to smaller manufacturers of the time, such as Red Heart.



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    More info regarding Musial and Topps, Bowman and Rawlings.


    1953

    After a judge initially ruled for Topps, Bowman wins on appeal. In a landmark decision that established an individual's marketing/advertising rights to their own image,4 the Second Circuit court of appeals sided with Haelan/Bowman. Getting a picture of your favorite player during this era often means buying the right brand of cards as many appear in only Bowman or only Topps sets (in fact Stan Musial only appeared on Rawlings "cards" after 1953 until finally appearing on a Topps card in 1958).


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not sure if I'd say it was greed, especially since I was not probably even born yet.

    He is on some regional issues.


    Steve >>



    Probably not even born yet, Steve? Is there some uncertainty as to your birth year, Steve? lol. image
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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the research and information Steve. That sheds quite a bit of light on the subject.


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    Steve
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    No problem Steve glad I could help.


    Dan, lol I was not talking about me.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Musial was also in the "T" tobacco issues of the 1950's..... 1952 and 1953 Red Man


  • bassnbud8bassnbud8 Posts: 66
    Thanks Steve!
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Didn't you guys realize he was in the Topps Stand-Up Autographed set? LOL

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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭
    It was greed in ARod's case . His first Topps card is I think 98.
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