X-mas rack packs are back
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Guy tries to be legit, great story, his about me page has a photo of a Mathews back and one with a Pafko front?
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That 53 pack has some real dogs in it.
The Matthews, if legit, would bring a pretty penny graded.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
<< <i>Seller is a douche. Always on the ebay board talking about how he bought quite a few racks from a trusted source and his were 100% legit. He admits that all Xmas racks are either fakes made in the last 10 years or the actual aftermarket items produced by a 3rd party decades later. Then he lists the 1952 racks as being 57 years old. >>
Yep, I remember that guy. IIRC He started off acting like he was just bragging about his trusted source for his '52 X-Mas racks and I thought he was fishing for buyers. He aslo stated they were real Topps made racks until called out on it. bleh
<< <i>Yep, I remember that guy. IIRC He started off acting like he was just bragging about his trusted source for his '52 X-Mas racks and I thought he was fishing for buyers. He aslo stated they were real Topps made racks until called out on it. >>
That's the guy. Started a thread claiming how pristine and legit his were and that he would never sell them. Then ran away and hid for a few months.
Explain the “Christmas rack packs”—where did they come from, are any of them legitimate and what’s usually inside?
Another tough subject! These Christmas racks were not produced by Topps. That is first and foremost. All of these Christmas racks are not issued by Topps in any way in any type of Topps closeout. They have been produced by a third party and then retailed in stores. Most likely in dime stores around the country in the 60’s and 70’s.
The cards are usually in EX to EX-MT condition at best. That leads me to believe that Topps did not even supply the cards for these! Had Topps supplied the cards, they would still most likely have been a little bit cleaner and sharper than the cards that are in these packs. I also see Christmas racks now that are being produced today.
Most advanced pack collectors will tell you that these packs are not legitimate items since Topps didn’t produce them. I will never authenticate one as being real for this same reason.
but I take Frank's word for it. I believe that they were made by a 3rd party to sell in novelty stores.
The only reason we are even discussing these things is because slimy ebay sellers make outlandish
claims stating that a mint Mantle is possible and that Topps made them and whatever BS comes
to thier slimy minds.
Now if one could buy an xmas rak of 52 Topps for 50.00 and get EX type cards in them then I'd see no problem.
Steve
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Where are these guys getting the Xmas insert? they make them up?
I think some of these raks that we are seeing are the original ones and the sliby ebay
guys are overstating what may be in them.
Steve
Where are these guys getting the Xmas insert? they make them up?
I think some of these raks that we are seeing are the original ones and the sliby ebay
guys are overstating what may be in them.
Steve
Some of them may be racks that were produced years ago (I don't really pay much attention to them as I've never owned one or been interested in buying one), but definitely not all, as there are a number of others popping up from years that were never seen in years past (like racks from the late '60s, for instance), and there are a number of "holiday" racks that have been very recently made/fabricated to cash in on the profit potential (though these racks don't seem to command nearly as much as they once did--partly because collectors have learned about them, and partly because of the flood of "new" holiday racks that have been popping up all over the place of late. I suppose one way you might be able to tell is by looking at the staples).
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
<< <i> Tim
Where are these guys getting the Xmas insert? they make them up?
I think some of these raks that we are seeing are the original ones and the sliby ebay
guys are overstating what may be in them.
Steve
Some of them may be racks that were produced years ago (I don't really pay much attention to them as I've never owned one or been interested in buying one), but definitely not all, as there are a number of others popping up from years that were never seen in years past (like racks from the late '60s, for instance), and there are a number of "holiday" racks that have been very recently made/fabricated to cash in on the profit potential (though these racks don't seem to command nearly as much as they once did--partly because collectors have learned about them, and partly because of the flood of "new" holiday racks that have been popping up all over the place of late. I suppose one way you might be able to tell is by looking at the staples). >>
<<< suppose one way you might be able to tell is by looking at the staples >>>
Do you mean if the staples are a black color or rusted? - both can easily be faked.
<<< suppose one way you might be able to tell is by looking at the staples >>>
Do you mean if the staples are a black color or rusted? - both can easily be faked.
I'd bet most of these scammers are not eevn bothering to artificially age the staples, as the rack looks more "factory fresh" that way.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.