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Ahmanfan · December 19, 2009 5:20AM

Hi guys
I have decided I like rack packs. I might buy some with the stars on top just to keep like that, I think they are pretty neat. maybe football from like 77-86, some of those. Should I be cautious of resealed racks? I'm clueless.
John

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · December 19, 2009 5:27AM

Heard of resealed and ones that had a header card, being made. Unsure how widespread of a problem it is.

lsutigers1973 · December 19, 2009 5:34AM

For football, I would get ones already in the older GAI slabs for the 1970's racks and maybe the 81, 84 and 86. 1980, 82 and 85 are relatively cheap even with stars or rookies showing.

summerof68 · December 19, 2009 11:10AM

You mentioned collecting fb racks 1977 to 1986. Fortunately those years are relatively safe compared to 1974 and older when it comes to resealing and outright counterfeiting. Racks 1974 and older are far scarcer than those 1975 and newer and command much higher prices, especially with stars on top.

For this reason resealers specifically seek out these older, scarcer racks, open the horizontal seals, remove the high-grade cards and replace them with near mint cards with no submission value, and then "recrimp" the seals. Many times they will add a star on top to increase the rack's value.

It is also common for a counterfeiter to take a rack of minimal value (such as a '77 fb rack) remove the header and all cards and replace them with, for example, 1971 bb cards with a '70 thru '73 generation header card since the headers from those years are all the same. A $75 rack has thus been transformed into an $800 rack!

And lastly when it comes to racks 1974 and older beware of any rack that has two or more stars showing--especially if both stars are on top.

dzolot · December 19, 2009 12:54PM

summerof68 - you're incredible (as always). How do you know this stuff?!!!

jswieton · December 19, 2009 1:56PM

I would really watch for the racks with more than one star on top. If it hasn't been graded by GAI and it is "too good to be true", it probably is. I have been looking for a 84 FB with Elway and Marino on top for years. All of the ones I have seen are suspect that aren't in a GAI slab.

divecchia · December 19, 2009 2:05PM

As others have mentioned with older racks you need to be very careful and suspicious, especially if HOFers or multiple stars are on top or bottom and the pack is ungraded.

Good luck...Donato

summerof68 · December 19, 2009 2:43PM

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stevek · December 19, 2009 11:21PM

<< <i>You mentioned collecting fb racks 1977 to 1986. Fortunately those years are relatively safe compared to 1974 and older when it comes to resealing and outright counterfeiting. Racks 1974 and older are far scarcer than those 1975 and newer and command much higher prices, especially with stars on top.

For this reason resealers specifically seek out these older, scarcer racks, open the horizontal seals, remove the high-grade cards and replace them with near mint cards with no submission value, and then "recrimp" the seals. Many times they will add a star on top to increase the rack's value.

It is also common for a counterfeiter to take a rack of minimal value (such as a '77 fb rack) remove the header and all cards and replace them with, for example, 1971 bb cards with a '70 thru '73 generation header card since the headers from those years are all the same. A $75 rack has thus been transformed into an $800 rack!

And lastly when it comes to racks 1974 and older beware of any rack that has two or more stars showing--especially if both stars are on top. >>

<<< And lastly when it comes to racks 1974 and older beware of any rack that has two or more stars showing--especially if both stars are on top. >>>

Excellent point - thanks for the tip!

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