I really took it on the chin with these submission results.........

milbroco · December 11, 2009 7:10AM

YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!

1 1 16259382 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1959 THE 3 STOOGES 96 TRYING THE SQUEEZE PLAY. Card US - NO way. Got these from my cousin who had them since 1959. He has no knowledge or very little about cards. No way he would have known to trim.
2 1 16259383 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 461 MANTLE HITS 42nd HOMER FOR CROWN Card US - As Expected
3 1 16259384 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1963 TOPPS PEEL-OFFS MICKEY MANTLE INSTRUCTION BACK Card US - Thought it was a 7 with a shot at an 8
4 1 16259385 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS 223 ROBIN YOUNT Card US - Possibly - bought this several years ago. Will size it up with other 75's
5 1 16259386 N3: EVIDENCE OF RECOLORATION 1971 TOPPS 100 PETE ROSE Card US - Again, possibly. Will need to check it under stronger magnification.
6 1 16259387 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1979 TOPPS 18 WAYNE GRETZKY Card US - Don't know whats wrong here. I got this one myself from a box myself in 1980.....

Total Items: 6
Date Received: 12/7/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

Let me say it before you........................Sorry this happened to you........

At least I did pretty good with this one......

1 1 16149349 POOR 1 MK 1909-1911 T206 PIEDMONT RUBE MARQUARD FOLLOW THROUGH-PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
2 1 16149350 NEAR MINT 7 1978 GRAND SLAM 65 RUBE MARQUARD PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
3 1 16149351 MINT 9 1978 GRAND SLAM 29 STANLEY COVELESKI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
4 1 16149352 NEAR MINT 7 1961 TOPPS 88 RICHIE ASHBURN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
5 1 16149353 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 PACIFIC LEGENDS 94 RICHIE ASHBURN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
6 1 16149354 VERY GOOD 3 1969 TOPPS 630 BOBBY BONDS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
7 1 16149355 MINT 9 1981 PACIFIC LEGENDS 33 ERNIE BANKS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
8 1 16149356 MINT 9 1982 PACIFIC LEGENDS 78 MICKEY VERNON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
9 1 16149357 MINT 9 1981 PACIFIC LEGENDS 56 ROBIN ROBERTS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
10 1 16149358 MINT 9 1983 PACIFIC LEGENDS 117 LEFTY GOMEZ PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
11 1 16149359 NEAR MINT 7 1983 TOPPS 482 TONY GWYNN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
12 1 16149360 MINT 9 1987 FLEER 430 ERIC SHOW PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
13 1 16149361 NEAR MINT 7 1986 FLEER FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS 5 NOLAN RYAN PSA/DNA CERITIFIED Card US
14 1 16149362 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 FLEER 478 CAL RIPKEN JR. PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
15 1 16149363 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 DONRUSS 89 CAL RIPKEN JR. PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
16 1 16149364 NEAR MINT 7 1988 DONRUSS 171 CAL RIPKEN JR. PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US

Dboneesq · December 11, 2009 7:16AM

Yikes is right! AT least the other one came back OK! Guess you are going to be playing the re-sub game!

epatmythes · December 11, 2009 7:18AM

I'm really starting to believe that they need to change the definitions on the grading standards... Thus,

N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT - Due to the continued growth of our business, without commensurate reinvestment in human capital, you may receive this designation if the grader fails to accurately measure your card on his/her first attempt. Time is extremely valuable, therefore it is more cost effective for PSA (a division of Collectors Universe) to issue this designation in place of double checking card measurements or investigating the nature of your item and/or consistencies with the brand issue. In such cases, a voucher will be issued so that you can, in all likelihood, resubmit your item at a later date for accurate grading and encapsulation.

initialD · December 11, 2009 7:47AM

N1 N3 N6

Nice trifecta!

gemint · December 11, 2009 8:31AM

They haven't a clue. I just got the results of my latest submission and there's a ton of MISCUT and Min SIZ rejects in the submission. Most came from sets I've been grading over several years with very few rejects. Now all the sudden a significant percentage are miscut. Of course there's also the infamous 'N1' which came from a 1975 set that was build directly from vending boxes. Also they're getting stingy with 1972's for some reason. With PSA 9's selling for <$10, there's no reason they should be trying to put the squeeze on populations this late in the game. Percentages of PSA 9's they gave are way down from earlier in the year.

I guess if the card doesn't measure perfectly to dimensions, it's now getting an 'N' rejection label.

Mickey71 · December 11, 2009 8:56AM

Gemint,

This is all disturbing. I'm not too excited with what's going on in grading at the moment at PSA or SGC for that matter. The N1 is being used frequently for cards popped out of their own holders. I've got 3 Mantles' that were in PSA 8 holders that are unable to get back in the holder. Although my favorite subject is PSA and the crossover service- Does it even exist?

gemint · December 11, 2009 10:15AM

<< <i>Gemint,

This is all disturbing. I'm not too excited with what's going on in grading at the moment at PSA or SGC for that matter. The N1 is being used frequently for cards popped out of their own holders. I've got 3 Mantles' that were in PSA 8 holders that are unable to get back in the holder. Although my favorite subject is PSA and the crossover service- Does it even exist? >>

I haven't graded with SGC so I can't comment on them. With PSA it is frustrating that the standards are always changing. I wonder if there's been a surge in people trying to pass altered cards through PSA with the down economy with the result being PSA being overly cautious on what they'll grade. I'd be shocked if people are trying to get bogus 70s commons through though.

vladguerrero · December 11, 2009 10:43AM

and now they've flagged you as a problem submitter

DrJ · December 11, 2009 11:50AM

Certain issues they are tough on. I submitted 4 UD century legends and all 4 came back Min size. Submitted 2 of the same 4 again and they end up in holders. If the card is not trimmed and it will fit in a holder because it is not miscut, put the card in a holder already.

I really took it on the chin with these submission results.........

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