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how much is too much $$ for a box ?

I have seen some posts about high end card products. Many of these are very exclusive - for collectors with lots of disposable income.

I have just discovered the FUTERA webs site FUTERA - $629 a box !

The inserts are going for between $50 to $400

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and the 1/1 autographs from $500 to $7,000

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is this crazy ? or is this the wave of the future ?

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    If this is the wave of the future, I will NOT be CATCHING ANY WAVES!!!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • The wave of the future showed up years ago. It started with Ultimate Collection's $100 price point back in 2000 and followed with Exquisite in 2003 with the $300+ price point. This years NBA Exquisite opened up at about $600 per pack/box. I do believe it was all trumped by Razor with their Presidential Cut boxes running $1000 plus.
  • wow !

    I guess I'll only see these in pictures.

    It is kind of like rare art that goes to collectors rather than the museum.

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
  • glad I don't collect Presidential Cuts image
  • That thierry henry auto never looked right to me.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I would imagine a Pele cut auto would bring some coin if there was one in the set.

  • Lemme Kilmister is God.


  • << <i>I would imagine a Pele cut auto would bring some coin if there was one in the set. >>



    Better than a cut signature - on card auto. Recently brought only about $210 on ebay. However, the Futera are all 1/1

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  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The wave of the future showed up years ago. It started with Ultimate Collection's $100 price point back in 2000 and followed with Exquisite in 2003 with the $300+ price point. This years NBA Exquisite opened up at about $600 per pack/box. I do believe it was all trumped by Razor with their Presidential Cut boxes running $1000 plus. >>



    Actually exquisite was never lower than 500 bucks a packs and Razor presidential cuts was 2000 a pack.
  • thats a lot of money for a sport that Americans dont care about, and its all artificial scarcity. Theyll do the same autos next time around on a different product.


  • << <i>thats a lot of money for a sport that Americans dont care about, and its all artificial scarcity. Theyll do the same autos next time around on a different product. >>



    that's pretty funny - I'm an American - and I care about the sport.

    In fact about 10 million Americans care about it. Just because you don't - don't come here to pee on a parade.

    In fact, if you look at the company web site - they have a world wide following - interactive section where collectors can name their team - play against each other and win 1/1 cards made by the company for league winners.

    look before you you speak - artifical scarcity is babble without logic.

    cheers
  • Ultimate Collection 2001

    that is the first $100 a pack ever and still the benchmark!

    That was the wave of the future

  • What is Soccer?

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  • << <i>What is Soccer? >>



    don't show your stupidity - pull up your pants - stop drooling image

    move on ..
  • a lot of kids play soccer.

    mostly because they cant play anything else.

    I'm glad that it makes you happy, but this product is obscenely overpriced and if you dont think that the card companies are manufacturing artificial scarcity than your not very bright.
  • Scarcity brings excitement to any hobby, whether it be cards, autographs, coins, paintings, etc.

    Any hobby needs scarcity for the high end collectors. Not all collectors are poor. Many are very rich, and
    they need a product that meets their demands.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    I like the pictured cards.


    If a $100 box of cards offers:

    1. A remote chance of pulling something valuable; or

    2. A strong likelihood of ending up with $10 worth of cards; and

    If a $1,000 box of cards offers:

    1. A remote chance of pulling something valuable; or

    2. A strong likelihood of ending up with $100 worth of cards,

    there really is not a whole bunch of difference between the two,
    for folks who buy LOTS of card products.

    "Too much" can only be determined by the market. So far, it
    seems that "too much" is still somewhere out there.

    .......................

    I like soccer, too.

    My only serious experience with pro soccer was as a supporter
    of the Atlanta Chiefs.

    Yearly Average Attendance

    1967 - 6,961
    1968 - 5,794
    1969 - 3,371
    1970 - 3,002
    1971 - 4,275
    1972 - 5,034


    1973 - 3,317
    1979 - 7,350
    1980 - 4,884
    1981 - 6,189

    It just never took off, but it was VERY exciting to watch the
    early promoters give it a try.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    True scarcity is good, however, artificial scarcity is not IMO.



    Steve



    Good for you.
  • Storm88 - you witnessed history ...

    for the baseball lovers here is a few facts about the ATLANTA CHIEFS soccer club:

    - The club was the brainchild of Dick Cecil, then Vice President of the Atlanta Braves baseball franchise who were the Chiefs' owners. Cecil was intrigued with the 1966 World Cup in England and decided that a professional soccer team would add valuable events for Atlanta Stadium.

    - The Kaizer Chiefs (South African pro team) name and logo were inspired by the Atlanta club and their south African star - Kaiser Motaung. Another Atlanta Chief player Jomo Sono owed the Jomo Sono Cosmos (named after the New York Cosmos) in the same pro league.

    - In 1968, the Chiefs famously twice beat Manchester City after the English side's manager Malcolm Allison described the local talent as "Fourth Division" standard.

    - The Atlanta Chiefs name and logo (altered slightly) were revived in 1979 when the Colorado Caribous franchise moved to Atlanta, with Cecil and Ted Turner (Braves) as owners. The team again played at Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium for three seasons.

    - The Atlanta Chiefs are the only pro team ever to have an astronaut - Manley "Sonny" Carter, Jr. - to fly on the NASA space shuttle. He was aboard Discovery in 1989.

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