ebay buyer threatens neg feedback if I file Unpaid

CapeMOGuy · September 23, 2009 9:57AM

First of all, it's the principle of the thing.

He lied and said his bank acct is screwed up, though the 9 items he bought since then got paid. I gave him 2 weeks time and said if he didn't pay by a date, I would file an unpaid claim. He responded with, "ok, I'll file neg feedback."

Will ebay allow this after an unpaid claim is made? I know I can respond to his neg feedback if he leaves it.

Oh yeah, his ebay ID is: 817.2009

I suggest you block him.

goose3 · September 23, 2009 9:58AM

save your correspondence with him and stick to your guns.

if he does it, contact Feebay and provide the emails.

thenavarro · September 23, 2009 10:09AM

I filed my first non-paying bidder strike the other day. I got tired of the excuses. I think they can still neg you if you do file it, not real sure, but I didn't let that bother me. If they get enough strikes they will be gone and then other sellers won't have to deal with that nonsense without them at least having to go through the effort of re-registering, losing their feedback, etc.

Mike

jimq112 · September 23, 2009 10:18AM

He left 2 negs for a different seller that he also didn't pay -

feedback left

PoppaJ · September 23, 2009 10:20AM

Once a buyer responds to a filed complaint against them, he/she can leave negative feedback.

It's when the buyer doesn't respond to a complaint that he/she can't leave the neg.

"members can lose Feedback privileges. For example, a seller might file a Resolution Center case with a buyer who doesn’t pay for an item. If the buyer doesn’t respond to the case before the deadline and receives an unpaid item strike, any negative or neutral Feedback left by that buyer is removed."

PoppaJ

grote15 · September 23, 2009 10:21AM

Stick to your guns and respond to his "feedback" with a response along the lines: "Deadbeat bidder never sent payment." Then get his contact info and ring his phone a few times when you're up late drinking late at night.

PoppaJ · September 23, 2009 10:26AM

Russell,

Perhaps you might want to CANCEL the transaction BEFORE he decides to neg you.

Just a thought.

PoppaJ

storm888 · September 23, 2009 10:34AM

"...Once a buyer responds to a filed complaint against them, he/she can leave negative feedback...."

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For clarity:

It depends on whether or not the deadbeat responds
"appropriately."

Until early 2008, ANY response was sufficient to maintain
FB-leaving privileges.

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In the instant circumstance, the OP should keep ALL of the
emails that were exchanged; including the forbearance emails.

It is ALWAYS a silly mistake to "threaten" deadbeats with filing
an NPB-complaint. Folks of a mind to file such should just do so;
threatening invites psychotic responses.

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If the subject dirtbag leaves a NEG, it can likely be removed IF
the OP is willing to stick with the process until he wins.

storm888 · September 23, 2009 10:36AM

"...Perhaps you might want to CANCEL the transaction BEFORE he decides to neg you...."

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howyoudodat?

WinPitcher · September 23, 2009 10:41AM

I think Poppa meant to ask the buyer to do a mutual cancellation.

Steve

thedutymon · September 23, 2009 10:42AM

<< <i>Stick to your guns and respond to his "feedback" with a response along the lines: "Deadbeat bidder never sent payment." Then get his contact info and ring his phone a few times when you're up late drinking late at night. >>

But wait till 2:00 AM at least, and do it 55 times between 2:00 Am and 4:00 Am. And before you all start with the Shock reaction...It's just a Joke!!

YeeHah!!!

Neil

PoppaJ · September 23, 2009 10:55AM

<< <i>"...Perhaps you might want to CANCEL the transaction BEFORE he decides to neg you...."

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howyoudodat? >>

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Hi Storm,

I was thinking along these lines ... LINK????

Option #2 under ... I sold an item.

PoppaJ

storm888 · September 23, 2009 11:21AM

"...Option #2 under ... I sold an item..."

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Mutual Cancellation is a GREAT concept, but in practice
it is a snakepit for sellers.

If a deadbeat wants you dead, the chance of getting
him to cooperate by checking the correct response box
can be pretty close to ZERO.

If the deadbeat checks the box that says:

"I don't agree"

the seller is SOL, and the deadbeat can still leave a NEG,
which may or may not be removed AFTER lots of labor.

A buyer/seller acting in good faith and wanting to fix an
error benefit from Mutual Cancellation.

A burned-seller vs. a deadbeat "buyer" usually finds nothing
but pain in the process.

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IF the OP had not pist the idjit off with his "threat," a
MC might have worked, but I doubt it.

You can't do good biznez with a bad man.

PoppaJ · September 23, 2009 12:12PM

Thanks for the explanation Storm,

I've never used that option, but I saw it and thought it might have been the way to go at first.

PoppaJ

thenavarro · September 23, 2009 12:16PM

Don't let the bidders threats beat you into submission, file the Non paying bidder strike!

EagleEyeKid · September 23, 2009 12:34PM

What's his address, I'm bored.

jimq112 · September 24, 2009 4:51AM

NARU

storm888 · September 24, 2009 5:03AM

OP

Be sure to block that guy.

When he comes back with a new ID, he can NEG
you on a new deal. UNLESS his old ID is on your
BBL.

Carew29 · September 24, 2009 5:07AM

as soon as you put him on your blocked list, he will not be able to leave feedback.

storm888 · September 24, 2009 5:10AM

<< <i>as soon as you put him on your blocked list, he will not be able to leave feedback. >>

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Once he is NARUd, he can't leave FB.

IF his NARU was for an expired credit-card, he can
leave FB when the NARU-cause is remedied.

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If he was NARUd for good cause, he cannot NEG
a seller who previously had his OLD ID on the BBL.

zep33 · September 24, 2009 5:25AM

Did getting NARU'd always remove all the feedback he had left up to that point? I thought it just removed the negatives but all this guy's FB is gone now

storm888 · September 24, 2009 5:36AM

Only his FB Left For Others is removed.

RULE:

If a member is suspended by eBay, negative or neutral Feedback left by that member is removed. If a member is suspended within 90 days of registration, all Feedback is removed.

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The subject character registerd in August 2009.

onebamafan · September 24, 2009 6:25AM

I am all about principle..........you gave him a week longer than i would have. File, file, file................ then block him.

italianstallionyankees · September 24, 2009 10:47AM

I had this happen to me last week . With the same response Ebay tells me to provide a header to trace the e-mails sent ... How do I get the e-mail header to forward it to them?? It is just a hit and miss with low feedback buyers these days

storm888 · September 24, 2009 11:06AM

"...How do I get the e-mail header to forward it to them?? ..."

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Open the subject email, click on "Show Headers."

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It is always best to communicate with EBAYers via
the EBAY message system.

stevek · September 24, 2009 11:16AM

817.2009 ( 23 [Feedback score is 10 to 49] ) Not a registered user

stevek · September 24, 2009 11:18AM

<< <i>He left 2 negs for a different seller that he also didn't pay -

feedback left >>

Looks like those negs were already removed.

trapperlad · September 24, 2009 12:12PM

He bought two items from me also and did not pay either. I tried to contact him twice and he did not respond. He is no longer a registered user. So, now I at least got the Ebay fees back.

CapeMOGuy · September 24, 2009 2:00PM

I did not make clear in the original post-I had already filed the unpaid claim. Glad to see him gone. I guess a second chance is in order, maybe I'll just relist.

Thanks to all of you for the moral support!

I'm not going to let a lying lieface liebag lier (gotta watch my language, I have a 9 year old) skate. But you know what, if he would have said soon after the auction that he made a mistake bidding on it, was sorry and wanted to cancel, I probably would have. I'm pretty much a softie for the truth. But this clown...not so much. And, since I read the responses, I blocked him from bidding on my items. Thanks for that advice, too.

ebay buyer threatens neg feedback if I file Unpaid

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