First post with autograph question...

tylerh · September 17, 2009 10:26AM

Hi All..
My name is Tyler and I just joined this forum. I was directed here by a friend who thought it would be a good place to ask a question I had...
I am currently trying to sell all of my collectables.. From toys to comics, to my sports memorabilia...

I was wondering if anyone could help on the values of a few items I have... Or point me in the right direction on where to go and ask..
Thank you,

Tyler
AUTOGRAPHED ITEMS:

BALLS:

1. 1986 GIANTS (complete team signed ball)
2. 1988 GIANTS (complete team signed ball)
3. 1990 GIANTS (complete team signed ball)
4. Lou Pinella
5. Nolan Ryan
6. Vida Blue
7. Orlando Cepeda
8. Nolan Ryan
9. “Lefty” Gomez / Frank Crosetti / Sam Chapman

8X10 PHOTOS:

John Brodie
Jerry Rice
Vida Blue
Orlando Cepeda
Mickey Mantle
Will Clark
Wayne Gretzky
Willie Mays

CARDS:
Pete Rose
Vida Blue
Reggie Jackson
Jose Canseco
Orlando Cepeda
Gaylord Perry
Roger Clemens

HATS:
Ron Brand
Vida Blue
Orlando Cepeda
Herm Edwards

MISC:
“In Memory Of” Card from Lefty Gomez’ funeral
1989 49ers pendant with Jerry Rice Auto

EB22 · September 17, 2009 10:27AM

digicat · September 17, 2009 10:41AM

Ebay's a good place to see what sort of prices these bring.

I see lots of Bay Area names there. Good stuff!

How were these auto's aquired?

tylerh · September 17, 2009 10:44AM

I'm a bay area guy

The autos were from a lot of different sources.. Some I got in person, The Giants team balls were a gift from my uncles friend who worked for them, and some were bought from trusted dealers back in the day (15-20 years ago)

Im always afraid of ebay values as I hear people dont really bid ebay autos much, since so many are fake...

Ironmanfan · September 17, 2009 10:45AM

are the team balls genuine hand signed or the facsimile/printed signature ones?

okposo21 · September 17, 2009 10:49AM

hello and welcome!

as with anything, provenance is very important. Sometimes, especially in the early 1990s, "trusted dealers" were unwillingly passing off forged items. Specifically out west. Anyway, a good idea would to be to check closed ebay auctions. Keep in mind that without any reputable COAs (PSA/DNA or JSA) you could expect to get a bit less than anything with one.

Good luck!

edited to add: Specifically with the Mantle, I would be very weary about if it is legit or not. Post a picture of some items here and I'm sure the forum regulars could help you out.

tylerh · September 17, 2009 11:54AM

<< are the team balls genuine hand signed or the facsimile/printed signature ones? >>

Yes, they are genuine hand signed. My uncles good friend worked with the Giants managing their locker room.. He himself was a former ball player (Sam Chapman)
He got me the team balls!

Ill post some pics tonight!

tylerh · September 17, 2009 12:49PM

Here are pics of the photos autographed by Mantle, Mays, and Gretzky

For the rest, all the balls except Nolan were gotten either in person autograph, or given to my by my uncle, who was friends with Sam Chapman, as well as lefty gomez and rank crosetti.

The 8 X 10s were also all gotten in person except for the ones above.

The hats also were in person

DrJ · September 17, 2009 12:57PM

Hate to say it but the Mantle, Mays and possibly the Gretzky are fakes.

tylerh · September 17, 2009 1:09PM

How can you tell?

okposo21 · September 17, 2009 1:12PM

The mantle is most certainly a fake. 100%.

Barfvader · September 17, 2009 1:17PM

Here is an image I borrowed off of eBay.

MooseDog · September 17, 2009 1:28PM

The Mantle and Mays are very bad fakes...done by the same person who wasn't even trying very hard.

The Gretzky I also think is bad but it's not nearly as bad as the other two. I got him in person several times over his career and his signature did change but that one has some inconsistencies that if you were to submit for authentication to PSA or JSA it probably won't pass.

Sorry for the bad news, but you did ask for opinions.

cwazzy · September 17, 2009 1:34PM

<< “In Memory Of” Card from Lefty Gomez’ funeral >>

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that if this is signed by Lefty then it's probably a fake.

Welcome by the way! Sorry to say that I agree with the other on the Mantle and Mays.

yankeeno7 · September 17, 2009 2:19PM

Thats very sad to see...Gretzky is bad too

thenavarro · September 17, 2009 2:24PM

I concur with the above posters on the Mantle and Mays that they are not authentically signed by those players.

I don't know enough about Gretzky to opine on that one.

Mike

Ironmanfan · September 17, 2009 9:56PM

this small sample i've seen here makes me wonder about the authenticity of the rest of the autographs in this collection (hopefully at least Vida Blue is legit)

lsutigers1973 · September 18, 2009 12:05AM

I agree with the rest. Not a chance the Mantle and Mays are legit. Look at the bright side, surely no one would fake a Ron Brand auto on a hat.

tylerh · September 18, 2009 1:34AM

<< this small sample i've seen here makes me wonder about the authenticity of the rest of the autographs in this collection (hopefully at least Vida Blue is legit) >>

These 3 8X10s are the only ones I have gotten from dealers.. The rest I got in person.

Most of the cards also I got in person...

Oh, and the Lefty Gomez card is definately not autographed.. haha

Would anyone like to see photos of any of the others?

samspop · September 18, 2009 1:48AM

<< Would anyone like to see photos of any of the others? >>

Yes, continue to post the pictures. The information you will get on these boards is great and will help you assess the rest of your collection.

Barfvader · September 18, 2009 5:41AM

Found another Gretzky autograph that looks exactly like the one on the picture.

Tyler's

And this one.

Story about the one on the card is HERE.

signed through the mail in the early '90s

So maybe autopen signature? To my eyes they are exactly alike.

Ironmanfan · September 18, 2009 6:00AM

<< 

<< this small sample i've seen here makes me wonder about the authenticity of the rest of the autographs in this collection (hopefully at least Vida Blue is legit) >>

These 3 8X10s are the only ones I have gotten from dealers.. The rest I got in person.

Most of the cards also I got in person...

Oh, and the Lefty Gomez card is definately not autographed.. haha

Would anyone like to see photos of any of the others? >>

I'd like to see the team signed balls

tylerh · September 18, 2009 9:01AM

Wow.. Crazy pic .. Ill bet autopen... Thats really something...

Tonight Ill overlay them in photoshop.. They look to be the exact same

tylerh · September 18, 2009 9:18AM

Here are the giants team balls.. From left to right 86, 88, 90

I dont know if its the pen they used, but the whole 86 ball is faded, a few on the 88 ball have faded, but the 90 ball is totally unfaded...

(largish pic)

csmtampa · September 18, 2009 9:19AM

Yup - Autopen

tylerh · September 21, 2009 10:40AM

I would still like some help with values on the pieces if I can get some.. Also I am happy to supply more photos of anything anyone would like to see!

First post with autograph question...

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