Anyone here that sells on ebay ship in a PWE??

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 7:13AM

I was thinking of doing a bunch of cheaper cards on ebay...like refractors, inserts, etc....what is fair shipping to charge if you use a toploader in a plain white envelope?

Dboneesq · September 3, 2009 7:14AM

A buck fifty?

jimrad · September 3, 2009 7:15AM

These are fairly cheap and do the job !

Link

lsutigers1973 · September 3, 2009 7:17AM

PWE = automatic neg if you charge more than fitty cent

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 7:17AM

those are nice...Ive seen em...but what is the shipping cost on those? oversized envelope? thick envelope? I think those will take more than a stamp.

Dboneesq · September 3, 2009 7:20AM

<< those are nice...Ive seen em...but what is the shipping cost on those? oversized envelope? thick envelope? I think those will take more than a stamp. >>

Sure they will take more than one stamp ... but why not charge a flat rate for up to 5 or so cards? As Bill stated, using a PWE could cause a neg pretty quickly.

storm888 · September 3, 2009 7:21AM

TO ME, using a PWE is not worth the risk of damage or a NEG.

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 7:24AM

I was going to state that items would be mailed in a PWE. Who wants to pay 2-3.00 for one card in a bubble envelope when the card is only worth a couple of bucks to begin with?

vintagechris · September 3, 2009 7:32AM

<< These are fairly cheap and do the job !

Link >>

How much does it cost to send a single card in these?

Dboneesq · September 3, 2009 7:34AM

<< I was going to state that items would be mailed in a PWE. Who wants to pay 2-3.00 for one card in a bubble envelope when the card is only worth a couple of bucks to begin with? >>

THAT'S why it is difficult to make money selling $1 and $2 cards individually on eBay.

You may be better off offering them up here for a buck ... make it a 5 card minimum ... and mail for $2.50 in a decent envelope.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 3, 2009 8:01AM

Quite a few times I've sold cards (low end) to members on other message boards and to save $ to the buyer, offered PWE. Recently I had a $4 sale "never arrive" and I issued a refund promply. Funny how with DC I've had around 1000 sales with no problems and with PWE I've done it about 10x and around 4 have "not arrived". pbbt. No more. Not worth it.

Many might see the PWE as Free cards coming !

MooseDog · September 3, 2009 8:19AM

For cheap (less than $5 cards) I sometimes auction them starting at 99 cents with stated shipping at cost, or 44 cents. I state in the listing that cards will be shipped in a PWE in a card saver or top loader. I send using metered postage through stamps.com and have never lost a card or had a complaint.

WinPitcher · September 3, 2009 8:23AM

Bubble mailer or better, just like when you bring beer for after the game it's Bud or better.

Steve

CNote · September 3, 2009 8:38AM

If I got anything in a PWE and shipping was more than a buck I'm giving that seller a 1 DSR for shipping charges

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 8:42AM

<< If I got anything in a PWE and shipping was more than a buck I'm giving that seller a 1 DSR for shipping charges >>

non power sellers dont care about that...who really looks? I think they look at just the FB anyway.

WinPitcher · September 3, 2009 8:44AM

Barry

Unless the buyer agrees I don't think it is worth the aggravation.

Steve

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 8:47AM

<< Barry

Unless the buyer agrees I don't think it is worth the aggravation.

Steve >>

You are right, Steve

I was only thinking of doing this. I have received so many cards in a PWE and thought it would be a great way to move some 1-5 dollar cards. It appears not to be such a good idea.

SlAt · September 3, 2009 8:48AM

<< For cheap (less than $5 cards) I sometimes auction them starting at 99 cents with stated shipping at cost, or 44 cents. I state in the listing that cards will be shipped in a PWE in a card saver or top loader. I send using metered postage through stamps.com and have never lost a card or had a complaint. >>

I wouldn't have a problem if it was stated in the Auction / Buy it Now.

I cringe when I go to the mailbox and get a card in a PWE. The envelopes are generally tore up, then you get this from me.

"Charged $3.00 for PWE". Seller: shb ( 4150) Mar-07-09 08:49
Reply by shb (Mar-07-09 17:15):
"what part of s/h dont you understand? never contacted me,would have given refund"
Follow-up by jrconcessi (Mar-07-09 19:51):
"I understand S/H. Contact you about what poor Shipping Practices, I don't want $"

I've left very few Neg's but they all relate to PWE's.

I ship in Bubblemailers for my protection and the cards, adding bubblewrap to get it thicker so it is ran special thru the postal system. I figure if you bid on something of mine you must want it so my job is to get it to you safely.

Granted most of what I sell is graded but if it's a low dollar card I cut my shipping costs to $2.00, which just about covers my expense.

Actually I received a card this week in a PWE, haven't looked at it yet, and am going to ask for the shipping difference if the cards O.K.

-John

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 8:51AM

Those are good points John...but a seller is a fool to ship PWE when charging 3.00 for shipping. I was thinking shipping charge of 1.00, using a semirigid, and of course putting it in big letters that it would be shipped in a PWE unless multiple cards were purchased.

But again, it appears to be more hassle than what it is worth.

WinPitcher · September 3, 2009 8:52AM

A few years back I was buying some 55 Topps from the guy on ebay that normally did not sell cards.

His shipping charge was a buck and the cards were EX at best. I won a few and he shipped them in a PWE.

He even combined the shipping (I think it was .25 for any extra win.) The cards came wrapped in paper and made it to me ok.

In that case I did not have a problem with it. The value of the cards was under 15.00, they arrived intact and his shipping reflected it.

Had he charged me 5.00 to ship the same cards I'd prolly eat it but be a tad annoyed. (I'd kick him in his nutz type annoyed)

Steve

storm888 · September 3, 2009 8:53AM

"Many might see the PWE as Free cards coming ! "

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That's a FACT Jack!!!!!!!!!

SlAt · September 3, 2009 9:00AM

<< Those are good points John...but a seller is a fool to ship PWE when charging 3.00 for shipping. I was thinking shipping charge of 1.00, using a semirigid, and of course putting it in big letters that it would be shipped in a PWE unless multiple cards were purchased.

But again, it appears to be more hassle than what it is worth. >>

I wouldn't have a problem as long as you tell people prior to going to the mailbox, I even think you can print the postage online and get the Delivery Confirmation for what 18 cents or around that but don't know that for sure. I'll have to try it in a couple weeks when I start selling again.

Thanks,
-John

diamondman · September 3, 2009 9:03AM

You can also ship in a bubble mailer without DC if you want to gamble the buyer is honest and your cost is around 1.37 to 1.50 for 1 card, but all the buyer has to do is claim they never received the card and wala your out the card and the money. I sometimes ship without DC but only if the buyer has great feedback and the card is under 5.00. JMHO

storm888 · September 3, 2009 9:03AM

"...I even think you can print the postage online and get the Delivery Confirmation for what 18 cents or around that but don't know that for sure..."

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DC is not available on PWEs.

Item needs to be 3/4" thick.

ElToroLoco · September 3, 2009 9:30AM

PWE's tell me you only care about the $ I sent you, so your feedback will reflect.

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 9:32AM

<< PWE's tell me you only care about the $ I sent you, so your feedback will reflect. >>

At this point, I have decided against it but I have to laugh at this comment....ebay, what is about other than the money? LOL No one is there being thrilled that they added to your collection.

kwtoz · September 3, 2009 11:27AM

I send out a bunch of reduemption cards to Topps in a PWE. They never arrived. For a couple of weeks, I'd occaionally get one back in the mail
from the postoffice, as I had a return address label on the card. I never got them all back.

I've had cards sent in CardSavers in PWE. I consider myself very lucky they arrived undamaged.

Forget the cheapness and use a bubble envelope. If you are careful opening them, they might be reusuable.

mtcards · September 3, 2009 11:29AM

The problem is when you send cards in a PWE, they sometimes get hung up in the sorter at the PO

For selling low dollar cards, try sportslots. I have made a half dozen sales in the last 2 weeks and I really dont have many cards listed. Plus you dont have to deal with ebay's goofy nonsense or paypal SNADs

onebamafan · September 3, 2009 12:54PM

$1

lsutigers1973 · September 3, 2009 12:57PM

I heard ghey yankees fans ship in PWEs.

otwcards · September 3, 2009 1:08PM

Am I out of the loop or something? Why is it that so many are looking to find ways to shortchange the buyer? Granted, there may be a reduction in p/h for the buyer on inexpensive cards, but does anyone think the seller's profit margin is going to increase?

I don't dabble in that end of the pool, but it would seem to me that a card that is expected to sell for $3.00 with $2.00 s/h fees would still sell for $3.00 with $0.44 s/h fees. Since it costs more than $0.44 to send a PWE (toploader and envelope) and less than $2.00 to send a bubble mailer with Delivery Confirmation, I just don't understand the mentality of risking damage to the card, loss in the mail and potentially negative feedback and/or an Item Not Received complaint when the bottom line profit margin is also reduced.

Maybe it's just me . . .

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 1:23PM

No, its the ghey LSU fans that are doing that.

Who is trying to short the buyer? Read the thread...its asks how much to charge...meaning, NOT 2 or 3 dollars for a PWE

lsutigers1973 · September 3, 2009 1:27PM

I read somewhere that pwe is Spanish for Yankess suck.

yankeeno7 · September 3, 2009 1:32PM

Yes, and in spanish, lsutigers1973 means "lsu tigers swallow"

lsutigers1973 · September 3, 2009 1:37PM

Ghey Tiger hatter

MULLINS5 · September 3, 2009 2:56PM

I use a toploader and plain while envelope, take the toploader and tape it to the invoice...i've never had a problem and charge free shipping...shipping always runs about 1-1.50 - of course I do this on cards that are around 5.00...once you start thinking to yourself, "maybe I should get delivery confirmation" then it's time to put it in a bubble mailer.

multiple cards generally get the bubble mailer too.

patrick

MULLINS5 · September 3, 2009 2:59PM

...a lot of you were upset over the seller charging 3-4.00 for a PWE (another post last week) and sided with the buyer saying they need to make money....now a lot are saying PWE = neg...why the change in heart?

clydecoolidge · September 4, 2009 12:18AM

I once received a Brewers medallion (still in the cardboard package) in a PWE and I was pissed about that. I would be even more pissed if a card came in a PWE. It's just too easy for a card in a top loader to "head for the hills" so-to-speak. It costs about $2.30 for me to send a card in a card saver, sandwiched between cardboard, and in a padded mailer via First Class Mail WITH delivery confirmation. I think buyers appreciate good packaging more than they care about paying a small amount more for it. Just my opinion though.

edited to add: Of course with a card valued at $1, it's sort of hard to do this I guess, which is why I usually stick to a $5 (at the very least) and up rule when listing cards on ebay.

zep33 · September 4, 2009 12:40AM

<< which is why I usually stick to a $5 (at the very least) and up rule when listing cards on ebay. >>

that's what I do too. Every auction starts with a 4.99 price. Even if I have to make up some lots to reach that value

yankeeno7 · September 4, 2009 12:58AM

Yes, it seemed that a couple people in here were not reading. The question was in fact for cards valued 1-5.00. Sending in a PWE because you would never sell those single cards with 2-3.00 shipping in a bubble envelope.

Those who charge 2-3.00 and send in a PWE are ripoffs. I get pissed about that too. But, I dont mind if I know I am taking a risk on a 1-5.00 card if I know ahead of time.

But I see many still do not want to see that and want to leave negs. You cant expect someone to charge 1.00 shipping because the bubble envelope will have a starting shipping price of at least 1.30.

clydecoolidge · September 4, 2009 3:39AM

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<< PWE's tell me you only care about the $ I sent you, so your feedback will reflect. >>

At this point, I have decided against it but I have to laugh at this comment....ebay, what is about other than the money? LOL No one is there being thrilled that they added to your collection. >>

A seller actually SHOULD be thrilled that they added to the buyer's collection. This is the major component of customer service, thinking "I'm glad you like you're item purchased, and I'll do what I can to keep your business." The problem today is that customer service has severely declined in the last decade or so. I guess people don't realize that the former contributes positively to the latter. Profits are obviously the ultimate goal, but how many times did you go to a restaurant and been treated like you were a bother to the person giving you your meal? I personally will not give my business to jerks, or people who employ jerks.

yankeeno7 · September 4, 2009 3:51AM

Restaurants are personal. Auto repair shops are personal. Sports card shops are personal. I can go on and on but ebay is IMPERSONAL.

You are right, customer service has been in the dumps...its not just declining, its already there. In the state of the economy, people are looking to make money. Of course all sellers hope for repeat business but for MONEY, not because they are happy they have added to anyone's collection. Thats just a cold fact.

clydecoolidge · September 4, 2009 4:41AM

I hear ya. And I know ebay is impersonal, but you should try to "connect" with people as much as possible IMO. When I send an invoice for an item, I always address the person by their first name in my notes, I also message them with the DC# when their item ships. I think the "in it for the money" comment is why customer service is at an all time low. Sellers separate the money from the person giving them the money way too much, when in fact, connecting the two as much as possible will actually help a business.

Anyone here that sells on ebay ship in a PWE??

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