Has this PSA seal been breached?

mippy · August 18, 2009 9:35AM

Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum. I just bought a 1986 fleer jordan rc about 4 days ago. This is the link to the card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230364899765&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Based on the scan that he provided, the card looks real. But I can never be sure until I have it in my hand and examine it. I can post some closeup scans for you guys to see once I received the card. But just based on the pictures in the link, does that holder look like it's been breached. I read a couple of post here about how you can tell if a seal is breached by looking at the top of the holder (it would look frosty if it's breached). This is the link http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=724619&highlight_key=y&keyword1=psa&keyword2=breach
I was wondering if that case is also true for the fleer jordan. You can see that the top left look frosty. Your help is really appreciated.

divecchia · August 18, 2009 9:47AM

Welcome to the boards...Here is the card in question...

For me it is hard to tell if it has been breached, but it does look frosty on the upper left side on the front scan, but does not look as frosty on the back scan...

Donato

BobS · August 18, 2009 9:48AM

Hmmmm. Hard to tell. I think the case is alright. For the card, I'm no Jordan RC expert.

I will, however, say that on future e-bay purchases this large, you should also make sure the seller will accept a return. I noticed this one does not.

bobsbbcards · August 18, 2009 9:48AM

Auction Link

Posts Link

hankcaddy · August 18, 2009 9:50AM

LINK

HARD TO see in this scan, a few areas look frosted

mippy · August 18, 2009 9:58AM

<< <i>Hmmmm. Hard to tell. I think the case is alright. For the card, I'm no Jordan RC expert.

I will, however, say that on future e-bay purchases this large, you should also make sure the seller will accept a return. I noticed this one does not. >>

Well I paid with paypal using my cc, so if anything goes wrong, I can return it to get my money back. It is scary though to see so many scammers out there that even a graded card cannot be trusted. About a month ago, I thought as long as I buy a graded card and the serial number checks out that I'm pretty safe. Boy was I wrong. But like I said, I will post some closeup scans for you guys to see.
But just a general question: how DO you know if a seal is breached? if a big portion of the holder is frosty, then it's definitely breached?

storm888 · August 18, 2009 10:06AM

I think it's good, but I cannot tell for sure.

It's got some "funny" places, but that does not always
mean anything bad.

Nathaniel1960 · August 18, 2009 10:14AM

And behold, on the sixth day the angel broke the PSA seal, and the moon became dark as sack cloth.....

fuj · August 18, 2009 10:50AM

<< <i>I think it's good, but I cannot tell for sure.

It's got some "funny" places, but that does not always
mean anything bad. >>

I think the slab is most likely fine. I'm sure we've all gotten slabs directly from PSA that have some spots that will appear frosty in certain places.

I would however worry more about receiving the card at all given the seller's feedback. Did you pay with a credit card?

Assuming everything works out, that looks like a great card at a great price.

strangecreature · August 18, 2009 11:02AM

<< <i>

<< <i>I think it's good, but I cannot tell for sure.

It's got some "funny" places, but that does not always
mean anything bad. >>

I think the slab is most likely fine. I'm sure we've all gotten slabs directly from PSA that have some spots that will appear frosty in certain places.

. >>

This is true. I have both psa and sgc slabs that have frosty spots that werent tampered with. Its from the manufacturer.

Cubby · August 18, 2009 11:16AM

No, the case (and card) both look fine and dandy.

PoppaJ · August 18, 2009 11:58AM

PoppaJ

Brick · August 18, 2009 12:37PM

Hi, hello, how are ya?

mippy · August 19, 2009 12:32PM

Thanks for the warm welcome. The card will be here tomorrow. I will post some scans then
btw do most people in this forum collect vintage baseball cards? I read some recent posts and notice most of them are about vintage baseball

hammered · August 19, 2009 12:39PM

I also think it's good
but I'd get it reholdered into the newer style

Has this PSA seal been breached?

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