Coin with oldest pedigree?

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MidLifeCrisis
MidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭✭
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If you own any coins with pedigrees, what's the oldest traceable pedigree you have?

My oldest is a 1783 Nova Constellatio Blunt Rays Copper from the Lorin G. Parmelee Collection (New York Coin & Stamp Co., June 26, 1890).

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  • Billet7
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    Jules Reiver.
  • commoncents05
    commoncents05 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭
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    I owned the 1879 Proof Morgan from the Eliasberg collection which was pedigreed as:

    Ex: William Dickinson Sale (Chapman Bros., 3/94); J.M. Clapp; John H. Clapp; Clapp Estate, 1942 to Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr.; Eliasberg Collection (Bowers and Merena, 4/97), lot 2255. (#7314)

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  • sbeverly
    sbeverly Posts: 966 ✭✭✭
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    Oldest US coin is a 1786 Mass cent
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  • relicsncoins
    relicsncoins Posts: 8,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought I read somewhere that there was a CC 20 cent piece in a large sale a few months back that had been in the family since it was minted.
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  • PerryHall
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    << <i>Oldest US coin is a 1786 Mass cent >>



    I thought the 1787 fugio cents were the oldest US coins.

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  • SaorAlba
    SaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    J. G. Murdoch Collection, Part II, Sotheby, 11th-13th May 1903, a Scottish 30/-, this coin is one of approximately 5 known of the 1586 date.
  • ColonialCoinUnion
    ColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Oldest US coin is a 1786 Mass cent >>



    Mass Cents were struck in 1787 and 1788.
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  • sbeverly
    sbeverly Posts: 966 ✭✭✭
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    I had to go find it. it's a 1788 w/NCS plastic.

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    rim damage

    my mistake
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  • Doogy
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    not mine, but here is a great example of a pedigree that traces back quite a ways and is continuous: GB Petition Crown

    the most recent sale of this coin, being in the early 2000s for nearly $400,000

    Dr. R Meade, Langford, 11-19 February 1755, lot 38 (£12)
    E Hodson, collection sold privately
    S Tysson, Leigh, April-May 1802, lot 3016 (£105)
    Sir M Sykes, Sotheby, 8-12 March. 1824, lot 367 (£210)
    D Jones-Long, Sotheby, 17-20 January 1842, lot 401 (£170)
    J Baker, Sotheby, 1-2 June 1855, lot 53 (£154)
    G Sparkes, sold privately
    E. Wigan, sold privately
    TM Whitehead, Sotheby, 5 May 1898, lot 23 (£168)
    HC Brunning, Sotheby, 18 March 1908, lot 23 (£155)
    BA Seaby, sold privately to Mr. Glenister, 8 December 1944


    edit: There is another Petition Crown that had a pedigree this long too, that was sold exclusively by Spinks through the years. I confused it with this one, that Sotheby's has auctioned numerous times.
  • ColonialCoinUnion
    ColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
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    The oldest Redbook listed pedigreed coin I know is this one, which was once part of the Bishop John Sharp collection.

    Bishop Sharp died in 1714, making this pedigree at least 295 years old, and possibly many years older than that (though I do not know when the Bishop acquired it).
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  • MidLifeCrisis
    MidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    CCU and Doogy - gotta love those pedigrees that go back to the 18th Century! image
  • adamlaneus
    adamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
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    "The first Roman emperor Caesar Augustus was one of the first most known coin collector. He was specially inclined of collecting old coins and foreign coins and gave them as gifts to his friends during festivities. The successors of Augustus also became interested in old coins."

    It's a shame that this pedigree cannot be traced.

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