The Tiger story that the media is too scared to write about - UPDATE - Reilly posted my letter
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Any rabid golf fan here will get that this is a huge deal, but I watched the full CBS coverage, the complete Golf Channel post-game, read the ESPN Jason Sobel blog and every story on major websites. Do you know what not one media person has mentioned...
After Tiger didn't chip in on 18, Yang had two putts to win from eight feet and Tiger's ball was about five feet from the hole. Now, basically 100% of the time, what happens is that if the tournament is decided, you let the inevitable champion hit the last putt. In other words, Tiger should have putt-out before Yang as a courtesy.
Do you know know how many other guys have respectfully done this for Tiger so that he could celebrate without having to stop and wait for another shot to be hit? Too many to count. It was a low-class move by a guy who is, albeit, not accustomed to losing/choking. But still, at the very best, a lack of any real sportsmanship.
Some of you may know this, but Tiger is very picky about who he will and will not talk to in the media. If you get on his bad side, he'll blacklist you from interviewing him forever. This has happened to a few notable TV guys on the major networks. But the fact that this hasn't been mentioned in the heap of media coverage following this historic event is absolute garbage. The media are a bunch of pansies.
After Tiger didn't chip in on 18, Yang had two putts to win from eight feet and Tiger's ball was about five feet from the hole. Now, basically 100% of the time, what happens is that if the tournament is decided, you let the inevitable champion hit the last putt. In other words, Tiger should have putt-out before Yang as a courtesy.
Do you know know how many other guys have respectfully done this for Tiger so that he could celebrate without having to stop and wait for another shot to be hit? Too many to count. It was a low-class move by a guy who is, albeit, not accustomed to losing/choking. But still, at the very best, a lack of any real sportsmanship.
Some of you may know this, but Tiger is very picky about who he will and will not talk to in the media. If you get on his bad side, he'll blacklist you from interviewing him forever. This has happened to a few notable TV guys on the major networks. But the fact that this hasn't been mentioned in the heap of media coverage following this historic event is absolute garbage. The media are a bunch of pansies.
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choke and just let him drain the bird in front of him. I wouldn't wrong Tiger on that.
I don't even know where to begin to find the answer to this question, but does anyone know what Jack Nicklaus' record was/is when he was atop a leaderboard going into the final round of a major. Wikipedia shows that Nicklaus came in second 19 times and third 46 times, but it doesn't show where Nicklaus stood going into the final round.
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While walking around the hole to get a better look at a potential line for his chip off the edge of the green, Tiger walked right across Yang's putting line and didn't even glance down to see where his ball was. Even novice golfing hacks playing on a Saturday while consuming large quantities of beer know that you do not walk across another players line on the green. I was watching with a golfing buddy and we both saw it when it happened and thought it was the lowest class move we had ever seen.
I still love Tiger and think he is the greatest to ever play the game. However, that does not give him the right to be a complete jerk just because he had a bad day and his opponent had a career day.
Tiger's short putting was off just a little plus it seemed Tiger made some wrong club choices.
He could have easily won this.
I feel for him, it must have been extremely frustrating to lose this one. Unlucky!
Oh well, he will get over it! LOL!
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<< <i>I also couldn't help but notice the dissapointment with the announcers when it became obvious Tiger wasn't going to win.... >>
Yeah, Nantz's lips are very firmly planted on Tiger's ass.
It's almost sickening how CBS caters to Tiger, the announcers NEVER criticize him. I usually root for Tiger in that spot yesterday, but I found myself rooting for Yang from the get-go.
Yep, Tiger got his Yang pulled yesterday!
My goodness! This win must be a very big deal in South Korea? Yang just might get a shiny new Hyundai out of this win?
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I think there is a time to be a gentleman and Tiger really missed an opportunity to show a good side in finishing second. I see no shame in finishing second unless one is just unable to be gracious. In looking back at the way things played out on the 18th green, I can see where someone wishes he could have a second chance... obviously, not at winning but acknowledging and just showing some excitement for the man who did what everyone thought was not possible.
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But let's get one thing straight - Tiger certainly did not Choke.
He definitely didn't have his 'A' game, that's for sure and just goes to show you how great Tiger is, even when he's not playing his best.
He just had a so-so day and someone had a great day to beat him.
I wouldn't read too much into the fact Tiger was beaten. It's happened before and will happen again.
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<< <i>Come on, Tiger woulda putted first but Yang was ready. Big deal... >>
I agree, as much as I think the TV networks and the Tour caters too much to Tiger, I saw no disrespect here. I think he was lying low (including not talking immediately after the round was over) as best as he could to let Yang have the spotlight he deserved.
<< <i>Maybe Nicklaus is safe with that majots record after all.. >>
No, don't think so. Unless he has a career ending injury, Tiger will end up with 25-30 major wins.
when yang sank the putt, tiger put his head down and walked to putt. he let yang have his cheer, sank his putt. Walked over to yang and shook his hand and hugged him, all while taking off his hat. he congragulated his caddy as well, then walked right off the course. just like any other golfer would have done.
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<< <i>Maybe Nicklaus is safe with that majots record after all.. >>
No, don't think so. Unless he has a career ending injury, Tiger will end up with 25-30 major wins. >>
One a year for 15 more years? Unlikely. I think that he will emotionally implode before then. Never seen a more unhappy looking multimillionaire in my life.
I think you're looking for something to be upset about. It certainly isn't an obvious "nobrainer".
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As for the guy who said...."But let's get one thing straight - Tiger certainly did not Choke." - it is absolutely debatable whether Tiger choked or not. Yes, Yang played well all day, but if Tiger just shot even par on the day, he would have been in a playoff with Yang (which, if history is any guide, Tiger most likely wins).
I find it interesting that with the exception of the US Opens, which are tough in any conditions, that only one, maybe two (1997 Masters, 2007 PGA) of his other 11 majors were won when scoring was difficult. Tiger has played in 13 Masters and won 4...in the 9 others, the winning score was -9 or less 7 times. His 3 Open Championships were all won when conditions were ideal (twice at St. Andrews, which is flat out easy for those guys if the wind isn't blowing). For the so-called most creative player on Tour, he seems to have trouble getting it around when the wind is blowing a little bit, as it was on Sunday.
All that said, I won't argue that he brings in the ratings, and I certainly enjoy watching him play. I'm just glad he lost Sunday.
<< <i>he seems to have trouble getting it around when the wind is blowing a little bit >>
You're not wrong. He may well have won a calendar grand slam in 02 if not for the crazy wind at Muirfield. He is NOT a good wind player.
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<< <i>I'm glad your POV got some pub....
As for the guy who said...."But let's get one thing straight - Tiger certainly did not Choke." - it is absolutely debatable whether Tiger choked or not. Yes, Yang played well all day, but if Tiger just shot even par on the day, he would have been in a playoff with Yang (which, if history is any guide, Tiger most likely wins).
I find it interesting that with the exception of the US Opens, which are tough in any conditions, that only one, maybe two (1997 Masters, 2007 PGA) of his other 11 majors were won when scoring was difficult. Tiger has played in 13 Masters and won 4...in the 9 others, the winning score was -9 or less 7 times. His 3 Open Championships were all won when conditions were ideal (twice at St. Andrews, which is flat out easy for those guys if the wind isn't blowing). For the so-called most creative player on Tour, he seems to have trouble getting it around when the wind is blowing a little bit, as it was on Sunday.
All that said, I won't argue that he brings in the ratings, and I certainly enjoy watching him play. I'm just glad he lost Sunday. >>
I agree with everything you say except 'it is absolutely debatable whether Tiger choked or not. '
How can any golfer say that he choked?
To say so shows you truly don't understand the game.
Bottom line is, he had an off day, which is quite different than Choking.
Evidence of this is his missed short putt on hole #1 and subsequent missed putts all day. It happens.
Do you really expect him to have a 100% success record when leading into Sunday for his entire career?
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Edited to add: he scalded my tukus too.
Tiger's head was where it should never have been and his putting woes commenced on the very first hole.
If you all remember - he mulled over the missed putt for Birdie on #1 & all the cameras clearly showed him
remarking - "It's GOT TO break that way!" That set the tone for his putting for the rest of the day.
On the 18th, he was TOTALLY stunned that the unthinkable had indeed happened. In fact, reality set in
when Yang chipped in for Eagle a couple holes earlier.... sealing the deal with Golf History.
I am certain he now looks back at the events of those final few minutes and is both appalled with his own
misconduct & apparent lack of etiquette. Father Time can be VERY unkind!
Goliath has fallen. Superman does have a weakness. Achilles had one too.
I'm not excusing his show of "humaness" but remember - he's never been in that position before & I'm sure
his head was like totally elsewhere. Knowing him, I'm sure he's very embarassed by ALL of it.
Tiger is not hungry anymore and perhaps the fire in his gut has ebbed somewhat as well. (NAH!)