I'm going to crack this. What do y'all think?

RonBurgundy · August 15, 2009 5:03AM

thenavarro · August 15, 2009 5:07AM

Those slabs are a pain in the butt for me to crack. PSA is much easier. Good luck on the crackout, that's a nice looking card.

Mike

BunchOBull · August 15, 2009 5:07AM

Scratch that...brain lapse on my behalf...

I think it has a shot at crossing.

WinPitcher · August 15, 2009 5:09AM

Does the card have a tilt?

I would leave it alone.

Doubt PSA would give it a 7.5.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

Steve

Stone193 · August 15, 2009 5:21AM

Hi Ron

What does the lower right corner look like?

Is it strong enough to keep the other 3 in the 8 range?

Overall, it looks pretty much where it belongs - could drop to 7 in a PSA holder if the lower right is soft.

mike

RonBurgundy · August 15, 2009 5:22AM

The scan's tilted more than the card. But it does have a slight tilt to it. Corners are strong except the lower right. Given my luck with Mantles going to PSA, I should probably leave it alone.

Morgoth · August 15, 2009 5:27AM

Man up and just do it

. It has a shot, I am scared of BVG and GAI cards though.

corvette1340 · August 15, 2009 5:28AM

send it in crossover service. I weighed those exact options when I was considering buying it, but I think you can make money putting in on the bay exactly like it is going by another BVG 7.5 auction that recently ended.

VitoCo1972 · August 15, 2009 5:30AM

Straight 7 Ron. If you're happy w/ that, crack away.

nightcrawler · August 15, 2009 5:30AM

Great card, I think it has a chance to cross, you should go for it. I use tile cutters on BVG holders.

hammered · August 15, 2009 6:14AM

I also think it's a 7
Looks like there are some issues with the surface
very nice card though

WinPitcher · August 15, 2009 6:15AM

Unless i needed it for a registry set I'd leave it as is.

Would it sell for more in a PSA 7 slab?

Steve

lawnmowerman · August 15, 2009 6:18AM

I have an idea.

Make a thread about cracking it but don't crack it!

fur72 · August 15, 2009 6:21AM

I agree with the crossover. Its a strong 7 maybe a shot at an 8. Either way that card would look much better in a PSA holder.

lsutigers1973 · August 15, 2009 6:26AM

The only thing that would bother be is the slab it is currently in. I cracked a Ripken rookie out of one yesterday and wounded 2 dogs, my daughter got plastic in her eye and I stabbed myself with the screwdriver.

WinPitcher · August 15, 2009 6:29AM

I cracked one BVG holder and I simply put it in a vise and used a hack saw.

GAI is also tuff, vise and I used a hacksaw.

That way no flying pieces.

Steve

mikeschmidt · August 15, 2009 6:39AM

lower right corner looks like it may keep this from a comparable grade from other companies...although hard to tell definitively from a scan, of course

heritage · August 15, 2009 6:41AM

nice card ..I'd say it could get a 7.5 from psa but you just never know.

WinPitcher · August 15, 2009 6:46AM

The lower right corner may look worse then it is. I think it may be because of the ruff cut?

My concern is the tilt.

Steve

TonyC · August 15, 2009 6:49AM

I think the corners and the snow max it out at a 7.5.

Dboneesq · August 15, 2009 6:51AM

Ron ... fro the pic it looks like the top left corner and the bottom right corner have a little touch to them ... IMO PSA would come back with a 7. HOWEVER, back in the day that would have been looked at as a NRMT raw card, if not better. It would look AMAZING in a raw set (But TPG have made keeping nice cards raw a bad financial decision.)

Ahmanfan · August 15, 2009 10:16AM

leave it!

bigreddog · August 15, 2009 10:42AM

Free it from the silly plastic and leave it raw, thecway it was meant to be.

otwcards · August 15, 2009 10:58AM

I don't think the miscut (side to side cut tilt and drag) will be much of a problem. But there's something about that top edge that bothers me and suggests it might come back EOT.

fattymacs · August 15, 2009 11:06AM

VCP Averages:

BVG 7.5 $415.00

PSA 7 $393.60
PSA 7.5 $565.00

Looks like a solid upside, provided your eye tells you it is atleast a PSA 7

corvette1340 · August 15, 2009 12:46PM

This was a comparable BVG 7.5 that ended recently. It looks like the seller has deleted the picture but one is still on the main ended auction search page. It also had strong centering.

1961 BVG 7.5 Mantle

pdub1819 · August 15, 2009 12:48PM

The numbers above don't lie. You could always cross over and set the limit to 7 so in case PSA decides to go lower it won't.

rbdjr1 · August 15, 2009 1:03PM

how much $$$ was this card?

1960toppsguy · August 15, 2009 1:05PM

If that is not a PSA-8 . . . something is wrong somewhere.

WinPitcher · August 15, 2009 11:04PM

So, what did you wind up doing?

Steve

RonBurgundy · August 15, 2009 11:06PM

It's on my desk staring at me right now.

Here are the options:

1) Crack it as intended.

2) List as BIN on Ebay.

3) Sell it to Corvette at a big markup.

leadoff4 · August 15, 2009 11:21PM

CRACK IT OUT NOW!

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 1:41AM

I'd go with number 3.

Steve

corvette1340 · August 16, 2009 2:59AM

<< I'd go with number 3.

Steve >>

I wouldn't buy it from you if it was $50.

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 3:02AM

ummm I'm not selling it, Ron is. Or are you saying you would not buy it from him for 50.00?

Or is it simply another case of you not understanding?

Steve

corvette1340 · August 16, 2009 3:07AM

<< ummm I'm not selling it, Ron is. Or are you saying you would not buy it from him for 50.00?

Or is it simply another case of you not understanding?

Steve >>

lol, Rainman, I'm saying that if it was yours I wouldn't buy it for $50 even though it's worth a lot more. It's kind of like the illegal immigrants that have lawn services in my area. Even though they only charge about half of my regular lawn guy, I won't let them cut my yard because I hate illegal immigrants/drains on society.

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 3:08AM

What makes you think I'd even sell anything to you then?

Steve

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 3:09AM

It appears that Tommy loves to tell other people not to talk to him.

Wonder why he doesn't take his own advice?

Steve

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 3:11AM

"I hate illegal immigrants/drains on society"

lol and you called me bitter, how do you know they are illegal? Did you ask them for papers?

Steve

SoFLPhillyFan · August 16, 2009 3:18AM

<< "I hate illegal immigrants/drains on society"

lol and you called me bitter, how do you know they are illegal? Did you ask them for papers?

Steve >>

I think he may be trying to say that you are here illegally.

Guess that would explain your devotion to Omar Minaya.

corvette1340 · August 16, 2009 3:20AM

<< "I hate illegal immigrants/drains on society"

lol and you called me bitter, how do you know they are illegal? Did you ask them for papers?

Steve >>

yes, in fact I did. I also won't sell a car to anyone here illegally regardless of how much cash they have.

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 3:20AM

He's not that smart to imply anything like that.

Steve

dizzle · August 16, 2009 3:21AM

Looks like another thread soon to be down the crapper due to this bickering back and forth.. there is a PM function guys...

Back to the topic..

Ron nice card and you have a good eye on Vintage and obviously a much better look at the card since you have it in hand.. what do you think?

The only way I would send it PSA is cracked out.. Not a big fan of the crossover service for any of the Big grading companies myself..

WinPitcher · August 16, 2009 3:23AM

Sorry dizzle I thought Tommy was going to take his own advice and not talk to me.

I'll jab once from now on and move on.

Steve

initialD · August 16, 2009 3:24AM

<< I have an idea.

Make a thread about cracking it but don't crack it!

>>

+1

otwcards · August 16, 2009 3:51AM

<< 

<< "I hate illegal immigrants/drains on society"

lol and you called me bitter, how do you know they are illegal? Did you ask them for papers?

Steve >>

yes, in fact I did. I also won't sell a car to anyone here illegally regardless of how much cash they have. >>

Would love to see how many of Tom's relatives came into this country. I'm sure there's a few that didn't pass through proper channels. Heck, traced my family back to the mid 1600's and the Port of Philadelphia. But there are always a few branches that get lost or misplaced along the way...

SDavid · August 16, 2009 4:21AM

Your best shot at an 8 is to crack it.

Your best shot at a 7.5 is through the crossover service.

That doesn't make much sense, but I've had so many cards go from 7.0 to 8 after resubmitting them that I'm convinced the graders don't have a good feel for that half grade. Otherwise, at least some of them should have gotten 7.5's the first time.

jfkheat · August 16, 2009 8:34AM

I had good luck cracking BVG slabs and submitting them to PSA. I had a 56 Mantle go from a BVG 4.5 to a PSA 7. These were from a few years ago when the BVG slabs had the subgrades listed.
James

RonBurgundy · August 24, 2009 12:40AM

In the end, I could not crack it.

Sold on Ebay BIN for $649. I'm fine with that.

I'm going to crack this. What do y'all think?

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