1959 Topps Football - (SCAN-HEAVY) - Grades Popped - Listed on BST Forum
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First, I'll try to give you the Reader's Digest version on how I came across these cards. A friend on my softball team (in his mid-30s) heard that I was into collecting sports cards (because I was talking about The National), and after a game earlier this week he told me that he used to collect cards when he was a kid and wondered if I would like to come over and check them out, and maybe help him sell them. He said they're mostly football, and he has a set that he thinks is from the 50s. Now we've all heard this one before, they say they have all of these cool cards but when you get there he's got stacks of late 80s cards worth doggy doo-doo. But I figured what the heck, he's a good friend, so I'd be happy come check out what he has, because I love looking at any cards, no matter what they are.
Well I get there and his entire kitchen table is full of old binders and boxes. Now while he has his fair share of 1986 through 1989 Topps Baseball junk, he also has full and partial sets of Football ranging from 1975 to 1987, all kept in binders! He's got all the big football rookies you can think of, from Bradshaw, Payton, Montana, Elway, Marino, Rice, along with random cards from the 60s like a 1969 Topps Piccolo and Sayers, to a 1962 Ernie Davis! On top of ALL THAT, he has an entire Series 1 set (1 - 88) of 1959 Topps Football, that is freaking beautiful. All kept in sheets in a binder, untouched since probably the early to mid 80s if I had to guess. These '59s are just stunning, the surfaces are clean, and corners are as sharp as you could ever hope for 50-year-old cards.
Now for the actual questions about this set. I've noticed on some of these cards that the yellow is not layered properly on top of the other colors. For cards this old, how much does PSA take this into consideration, and will it drop a grade or two because of it? Also, how much does 60/40 or 70/30 centering hurt the grades in these cards? Here are nine of the higher-rated cards from this set. Please let me know what you think, and thank you for your help!
Well I get there and his entire kitchen table is full of old binders and boxes. Now while he has his fair share of 1986 through 1989 Topps Baseball junk, he also has full and partial sets of Football ranging from 1975 to 1987, all kept in binders! He's got all the big football rookies you can think of, from Bradshaw, Payton, Montana, Elway, Marino, Rice, along with random cards from the 60s like a 1969 Topps Piccolo and Sayers, to a 1962 Ernie Davis! On top of ALL THAT, he has an entire Series 1 set (1 - 88) of 1959 Topps Football, that is freaking beautiful. All kept in sheets in a binder, untouched since probably the early to mid 80s if I had to guess. These '59s are just stunning, the surfaces are clean, and corners are as sharp as you could ever hope for 50-year-old cards.
Now for the actual questions about this set. I've noticed on some of these cards that the yellow is not layered properly on top of the other colors. For cards this old, how much does PSA take this into consideration, and will it drop a grade or two because of it? Also, how much does 60/40 or 70/30 centering hurt the grades in these cards? Here are nine of the higher-rated cards from this set. Please let me know what you think, and thank you for your help!
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very nice cards.
I dont think the yellow being off will hurt you. I see a lot of 8s on the centered cards, and maybe7s on the OC card. or 7-8 OC. something like that. nice cards. sell me some!
here are the ones I need:
1 9 10 17 20 23 36 40 51 53 60 68 75 76 82 84 86 130 135 144 148 155
thanks
John
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
Bosox1976
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In order to raise some money to use as grading fees, I'm selling (or sold) some of his factory sets and lower grade rookies. By the time I'm done with that I should have about $450 to put towards the grading fees. That should just about cover the rest of these '59s, plus a hand full of other minty cards like the Payton, Theisman, and Rice RCs.
In my humble opinion, the grades I expect to see from the '59s are some 6s, mostly 7s, a few 8s, and I HOPE a 9 or two. I have submitted a couple dozen 1952 Topps Baseball cards in my experience, and have received a few 7s that were in worse shape than most of these cards, so I guess we'll see.
If anyone else has experience grading cards like this, I would love to hear your opinion! Thanks!
Nice find! I wish your friend and you the best of luck with your grades!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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thanks
JOhn
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
August CC Special, sub received on 8/26/09, popped on 8/28/09!!
******!!!HOLY PSA 9 BART STARR BATMAN!!!******
PSA 9 = 8
PSA 8.5 = 1
PSA 8 = 16
PSA 7.5 = 1
PSA 7 = 23
PSA 6 = 28
PSA 5 = 4
1 1 15981895 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 1 JOHNNY UNITAS Card US
2 1 15981896 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 3 DETROIT LIONS CHECKLIST BACK Card US
3 1 15981897 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 4 MAX McGEE Card US
4 1 15981898 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 5 HUGH McELHENNY Card US
5 1 15981899 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 6 JOE SCHMIDT Card US
6 1 15981900 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 8 CLARENCE PEAKS Card US
7 1 15981901 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 9 PITTSBURGH STEELERS PENNANT CARD Card US
8 1 15981902 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 10 JIM BROWN Card US
9 1 15981903 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 12 BOBBY DILLON Card US Pop 15, 1 higher
10 1 15981904 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 13 JOE CHILDRESS Card US
11 1 15981905 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 14 TERRY BARR Card US
12 1 15981906 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 15 DEL SHOFNER Card US
13 1 15981907 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 16 BOB PELLEGRINI Card US
14 1 15981908 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 17 BALTIMORE COLTS CHECKLIST BACK Card US
15 1 15981909 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 18 PRESTON CARPENTER Card US
16 1 15981910 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 19 LEO NOMELLINI Card US
17 1 15981911 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 20 FRANK GIFFORD Card US
18 1 15981912 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 21 CHARLIE ANE Card US
19 1 15981913 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 22 JACK BUTLER Card US
20 1 15981914 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 23 BART STARR Card US Pop 10, 1 higher
21 1 15981915 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 24 CHICAGO CARDINALS PENNANT CARD Card US
22 1 15981916 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 25 BILL BARNES Card US
23 1 15981917 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 26 WALT MICHAELS Card US
24 1 15981918 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 27 CLYDE CONNER Card US
25 1 15981919 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 28 PAIGE COTHREN Card US
26 1 15981920 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 29 ROOSEVELT GRIER Card US
27 1 15981921 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 30 ALAN AMECHE Card US
28 1 15981922 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 31 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES CHECKLIST BACK Card US Pop 30, 2 higher
29 1 15981923 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 32 DICK NOLAN Card US
30 1 15981924 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 33 R.C. OWENS Card US
31 1 15981925 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 34 DALE DODRILL Card US
32 1 15981926 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 35 GENE GEDMAN Card US
33 1 15981927 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 36 GENE LIPSCOMB Card US
34 1 15981928 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 37 RAY RENFRO Card US
35 1 15981929 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 38 CLEVELAND BROWNS PENNANT CARD Card US
36 1 15981930 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 39 BILL FORESTER Card US
37 1 15981931 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 41 PAT SUMMERALL Card US
38 1 15981932 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 42 JERRY MERTENS Card US
39 1 15981933 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1959 TOPPS 44 JOHN HENRY JOHNSON Card US
40 1 15981934 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 45 WOODLEY LEWIS Card US
41 1 15981935 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 46 GREEN BAY PACKERS CHECKLIST BACK Card US
42 1 15981936 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 47 DON OWENS Card US
43 1 15981937 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 48 ED BEATTY Card US
44 1 15981938 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 49 DON CHANDLER Card US
45 1 15981939 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 50 OLLIE MATSON Card US
46 1 15981940 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 51 SAM HUFF Card US
47 1 15981941 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 52 TOM MINER Card US Pop 14, NONE higher
48 1 15981942 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 53 NEW YORK GIANTS PENNANT CARD Card US
49 1 15981943 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 55 RAYMOND BERRY Card US
50 1 15981944 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 56 HOWARD FERGUSON Card US
51 1 15981945 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 57 CHUCK ULRICH Card US
52 1 15981946 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 58 BOB ST. CLAIR Card US
53 1 15981947 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 59 DON BURROUGHS Card US Pop 14, NONE higher
54 1 15981948 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 60 LOU GROZA Card US
55 1 15981949 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 62 ANDY NELSON Card US
56 1 15981950 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 63 HAL BRADLEY Card US
57 1 15981951 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 64 DAVE HANNER Card US Pop 10, NONE higher
58 1 15981952 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 65 CHARLEY CONERLY Card US
59 1 15981953 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 66 GENE CRONIN Card US
60 1 15981954 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 67 DUANE PUTNAM Card US
61 1 15981955 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 68 BALTIMORE COLTS PENNANT CARD Card US
62 1 15981956 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 69 ERNIE STAUTNER Card US Pop 13, 2 higher
63 1 15981957 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 70 JON ARNETT Card US
64 1 15981958 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 71 KEN PANFIL Card US
65 1 15981959 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 72 MATT HAZELTINE Card US
66 1 15981960 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 73 HARLEY SEWELL Card US
67 1 15981961 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 74 MIKE McCORMACK Card US
68 1 15981962 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 75 JIM RINGO Card US
69 1 15981963 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 76 LOS ANGELES RAMS CHECKLIST BACK Card US
70 1 15981964 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 77 BOB GAIN Card US
71 1 15981965 MINT 9 1959 TOPPS 78 BUZZ NUTTER Card US Pop 13, NONE higher
72 1 15981966 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 79 JERRY NORTON Card US
73 1 15981967 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 80 JOE PERRY Card US
74 1 15981968 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 81 CARL BRETTSCHNEIDER Card US
75 1 15981969 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 82 PAUL HORNUNG Card US
76 1 15981970 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 83 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES PENNANT CARD Card US
77 1 15981971 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1959 TOPPS 84 LES RICHTER Card US
78 1 15981972 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 85 HOWARD CASSADY Card US
79 1 15981973 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 86 ART DONOVAN Card US
80 1 15981974 NEAR MINT 7 1959 TOPPS 87 JIM PATTON Card US
81 1 15981975 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 TOPPS 88 PETE RETZLAFF Card US
I asked for NQs, so any of these 5s 6s and 7s had to do more with centering than anything else. The corners and surfaces on these cards are insanely awesome for being 50-year-old cards.
These cards all belong to a friend of mine, and I promised him they would be all sold on ebay, to give everyone a fair shot at them. Once I post them, I will mention it in the Buy/Sell/Trade forum.
WOOHOO!!!
Hoarding silver and collecting history
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Beautiful cards! The colors just pop.
I'm working on this set. I need a few from your results, so I'll
be sure to bid on them when you get them listed on ebay.
I hope you do well with them for your friend.
That Bart Starr looks sweet!
It seems like it typically takes my cards about a week and a half to travel from PSA-poppage to NE Ohio, so once I receive them, I'll have them scanned and listed a couple days after that. I'll bump this thread and also post it in the BST.
"Molon Labe"