Grade / Opinions wanted on this 1855 S half dollar

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  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Detailwise, it looks AU something. How are the surfaces and luster?
  • lathmach
    lathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭
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    Really rare in this high grade.
    If it's yours, congratulations. Mine is only a Good or VG.

    Ray
  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd give an EF sharpness grade, but I'd have to go over the surfaces in person to really pin down an exact grade. There might be something going on with the obverse. I don't think that there is a enough mint surface left to call it AU in any case.
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  • PonyExpress8
    PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
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    Great coin. It's really hard to tell from photos on this one. From what I see it's probably in the AU55 area but I can only look at luster in hand honestly. The reverse looks maybe even higher then the obverse but strike wasn't always as consistent either in the day.
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  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Many 19th century coins are stronger on the reverse than the obverse. This especially true of early (1790s, early 1800s) coins.

    The obverse die may have been injured or a late die state, which would account for th lack of detail on the upper part of Ms. Liberty's body. But I'm no expert in this era. I'm just going by what I think I see.
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  • doh
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    AU, but might be cleaned. Hard to tell from the pics.
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  • DHeath
    DHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
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    The detail and the lack of luster are at odds, at least based on the photos.
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  • CaptHenway
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    << <i>Great coin. It's really hard to tell from photos on this one. From what I see it's probably in the AU55 area but I can only look at luster in hand honestly. The reverse looks maybe even higher then the obverse but strike wasn't always as consistent either in the day. >>



    We bought in an 1855-S the other day with an AG-3 obverse and a VG-8 reverse.
    TD
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  • PonyExpress8
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    TD, I have seen them like that as well.
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  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looking at the outline of the darker toning around the stars and legends, I see angular shapes, which makes me think some cleaning was done at some point.
  • 78750Aggie
    78750Aggie Posts: 417 ✭✭
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    AU-50, a very nice coin.
    Aggie
  • NumisOxide
    NumisOxide Posts: 11,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF details, old cleaning. Nice date and mint.

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    << <i>AU, but might be cleaned. Hard to tell from the pics. >>



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    Kind of strange on the reverse that inside the mouth of the eagle it's dark but the surrounding of the head looks clean.
  • dizzyfoxx
    dizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
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    I like it. That is one heluva TOUGH coin to find in any condition, and that one looks sharp. By comparison, grade wise, here's mine which is a PCGS VF25....

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  • NumisOxide
    NumisOxide Posts: 11,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>I like it. That is one heluva TOUGH coin to find in any condition, and that one looks sharp. By comparison, grade wise, here's mine which is a PCGS VF25....

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    Great piece dizzy!image
  • LoveMyLiberty
    LoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
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    Here is an example in your grade range. The bottom one is graded by PCGS as AU-53.

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    From a non experts perspective this is my opinion.
    I won't comment on the toning details of your coin from just the photo. It appears yours
    has a bit more drapery, or something there that looks like drapery. They come
    without drapery, partial drapery & with drapery depending on the amount of lapping
    that was done. Not sure about the rim area around 2:30 if it's a bump. The obv
    shield LIBERTY is just about full, as most have parts missing as in Dizzyfoxx's, however
    the rev shield has the usual light, or missing lines at the left lower area.
    The star centrils are nearly full and the arrowheads and feathers have good detail.
    The head, toe and gown seem more full than my coin and the reverse top wings, head,
    shield and claws feet are sharply struck, but you do have a few more contact marks. The
    large S is positioned with the right sides aligning with the F in HALF, similar to mine,
    whereas the VF coin is centered on the F.
    Hard to tell the grade of yours without seeing it, but I would think if it is gradeable it would
    be around an AU-55. The pop of an AU-53 is 3/4. It is a tough coin to find unless messed with.
    Nice pickup!
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  • Mowgli
    Mowgli Posts: 1,219 ✭
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    << <i>AU-50, a very nice coin. >>



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  • ksteelheader
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    Whatever the grade, it's a beauty.
  • Raybo
    Raybo Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    IMHO......................Nice eye appeal! image

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